Angels trade for Andrelton Simmons - Aybar, Newcomb, Ellis & $2.5mm to Braves $*#&

[tdawg87]

Tim Brown ‏@TBrownYahoo 37s38 seconds ago

Appears catching prospect coming to Angels is Jose Briceno.

 

 

Whoever that is

 

lol

 

That isn't even the Braves' top catching prospect. But hey, he had a nice .482 OPS at high-A ball this past year. As a 22 year old.

[Turd Ferguson]

One thing is for certain, Eppler is building this team to be strong defensively up the middle. Wouldn't be surprised to see him prioritize 2b.

[bloodbrother]

Good all-around SS are very valuable in MLB. Dipoto was able to ship a good all-around 2B on a 1yr deal in Kendrick for a top pitching prospect in Heaney

 

Eppler just traded a good all-around SS(more valuable than a good all-around 2B) on a 1 yr deal.....while also giving up the team's top 2 prospects, for an elite defensive, marginal bat SS

 

 

Would not be shocked at all if Atlanta immediately spins Aybar to some other SS needy team and gets something good back

[Angel Dog and Beer]

Brandon Crawford is obviously better defensively than Simmons, since he won the GG. And he can mash too.

[KevinJ14]

Jose Briceno

 

 

 

Jose Briceno | Rank: 25 (Preseason: 22)

Team: Carolina Mudcats (A Adv)ETA: 2017Position: CAge: 23 DOB: 09/19/1992Bats: R Throws: RHeight: 6' 1" Weight: 210 lb.

 

Signed: July 9, 2009 - COL

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Scouting grades: Hit: 40 | Power: 50 | Run: 40 | Arm: 60 | Field: 45 | Overall: 45

A native of Venezuela, Briceno signed with the Rockies as a 16-year-old in 2009. After a productive 2014 season with Class A Asheville, he was acquired by the Braves as a part of the January trade that sent David Hale to the Rockies.

Briceno improved as a hitter in 2014, as he began using the whole field more and ironed out some flaws in his setup at the plate. He has some loft in his swing, allowing him to tap into his raw power.

Behind the plate, Briceno is still developing as a receiver. He has above-average arm strength and threw out 44 percent of would-be basestealers in 2014. He still has work to do, but Briceno's tools give him the chance to develop into a big league regular in time.

[bloodbrother]

Lol Just a throw in. He's not on any of the Braves top prospect lists

 

He will be in this barren system

[nando714]

Where does Simmons hit in the order - 8th?

Behind Kubitza and in front of todd cunningham

Our line effing sucks right

[UndertheHalo]

Okay guys... Simmons isn't "marginal." Not by a long shot. He's possibly the best defender of all time... He's an upgrade, a big one, and with 5 years of club control to boot. He's very valuable. Yes I get that we gave up a lot, too much even, but to say that Simmons is a "defensive specialist" is insulting to the guy who has no match defensively. It's not like he's completely inept with the bat either. He's a 85 OPS+ hitter with the best defense you've ever seen. 4 to 5 WAR is expected. He's 26 and coming into his prime. He's worth a lot. 

 

 

you realize the 85 OPS + is atrociously bad.  Its well below major league average.  

[halobob]

The fact that AW hates this trade from the get go means it will be a rousing success for the Halos.

[DMVol]

Briceno hit .183 over 327 PA in A+ ball last season. Lol

Good grief...thought we might get Bethancourt....

[The_Outrunner]

I put my phone down to have a nice dinner with the fiancé..... Then I almost throw up said dinner

[WallyWorld]

everyone is calling Eppler a retard, but really, all this means is that he doesn't value Newcomb nearly as much as others. Most of the people on this board are basing their opinion solely off of what they've heard 2nd and 3rd hand of Newcomb. Eppler knows more about him than any of us, so for now we just have to trust his evaluation. Time will tell if he's right or not.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Where does Simmons hit in the order - 8th?

according to his numbers, i say 10th

[DailyHalo]

We traded a home grown, fan loved, better performing short stop, our best starting pitching prospect, and another top rated pitching prospect for another short stop who is slightly under performing of Aybar? WTF

So true but the fans like winning more. Championships make old memories fuzzy. Andrelton is an adjustment away from being quite the hitter (Although we got rid of Don). Jordan Zimmermann looks more and more appealing everyday. Plus we only lost a year of control with Newcomb and Ellis doesn't worry me so much.

[Biergott]

I am absolutely stoked we got Simmons, but I am absolutely disgusted with what we paid for him.  I feel violated, and it's not my money.   I'm going to go sit in a bucket of ice.   Good luck Aybar, going to miss your antics.  Good bye Newcomb, bummed we never got to see you here, don't feel so cool that I scored a signed Newcomb card in a waxpack either.

[kingsosha]

Maybe we can use the dip money we needed for aybar to go get jason hayride

[gotbeer]

Angels land Simmons in deal with Braves

[HeavenlyHalos]

everyone is calling Eppler a retard, but really, all this means is that he doesn't value Newcomb nearly as much as others. Most of the people on this board are basing their opinion solely off of what they've heard 2nd and 3rd hand of Newcomb. Eppler knows more about him than any of us, so for now we just have to trust his evaluation. Time will tell if he's right or not.

 

Incorrect. I know everything about Newcomb. He took out a restraining order as a result.

[bloodbrother]

Aybar and Simmons the past 2 years...

 

 

 

So pretty much the team gave up their top 2 prospects just to secure having another Aybar(minus the SB's) for the next 5 years

[Ohtaniland]

I love the deal.

[Turd Ferguson]

We are sending $2.5M to Atlanta as well.

[mulwin444]

To quote a favorite line by Glenn, Eppler got beat like a soapy dick on this deal. Seriously, it's nice he's awesome defensively but he can't hit his ass with both hands and, by trading your biggest chip, you're further away from actually fixing your glaring offensive problem since you'll rely solely on free agency to address it

[bloodbrother]

Jim Bowden ‏@JimBowden_ESPN 2m2 minutes ago

Jose Briceno the catcher sent to #Angels with Simmons in trade was not considered a prospect by Braves personnel.

[AngelsFaninGA]

The funny thing is my FB feed is filled with livid Braves fans. 

[Jay]

everyone is calling Eppler a retard, but really, all this means is that he doesn't value Newcomb nearly as much as others. Most of the people on this board are basing their opinion solely off of what they've heard 2nd and 3rd hand of Newcomb. Eppler knows more about him than any of us, so for now we just have to trust his evaluation. Time will tell if he's right or not.

 

aw.com = groupthink