Can you think of a point between Kendrys and the World Series? That's the era I'm kinda referring to, after 2002 cause that was a year where the curse would be broke IMO.
But yeah if you think Mo Vaughn, didn't he fall into the dugout like the first game of the season? In that instance it does go a bit further back.
They always do that against us, they freaking grind our pitchers. I'm not sure if they're always like that against other teams, but they play us like we're the frickin' Yanks every time.