Angels believe they have the pieces to acquire Price

[ettin]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--mariners--dodgers--angels-amongst-possible-trade-destinations-for-rays--david-price-013232956.html

 

 

"The Seattle Mariners, Los Angeles Dodgers, Los Angeles Angels, Pittsburgh Pirates, Texas Rangers, Arizona Diamondbacks and Toronto Blue Jays are among the teams that not only have an interest in Price but believe they can put together the sort of package to pry Price from the Rays, sources said."

 

 

 

Please don't do it, Jerry.  We are all begging you.

 

So just a few thoughts on anyone trading for David Price:

 

1. David Price will make a little over $13MM this year and something close to $18.5MM (or more!) in 2015 before he hits free agency.
2. When you combine those two years of salary next to the ace-level production he provides, he definitely has significant trade value.
3. Prospects are inherently inexpensive because they have little or no MLB experience. Thus when the Rays traded two years of James Shields (at a much lower salary than Price by the way) and Wade Davis (essentially a salary dump for the Rays although he had some value too) they got back a top prospect in Wil Myers plus another decent prospect in Jake Odorizzi, Mike Montgomery (a former top prospect who fell on hard times) and a lower-end 3B prospect in Leonard.
4. Everyone is assuming the Rays want prospects and I don't think that is necessarily the case. The Rays are prepared to win in 2014 and adding a 1B and DH would be a significant step towards that goal. The rest of their roster is pretty well set, except perhaps for their bullpen.
5. If the Rays do want established MLB players they will not get the "big haul" of prospects. Other MLB players have real value based on their past and projected future performance levels. Clearly someone like Mark Trumbo isn't enough to get Price by himself but adding in other MLB players or 2 or more prospects might bridge the gap.
6. I don't think the Angels have the prospects to include that would entice the Rays to bite on a Trumbo-based trade.
7. However, there is no reason that a third team couldn't get involved where we send one or more of Erick Aybar, Howie Kendrick, Chris Iannetta or Peter Bourjos (oh wait! Nevermind the last) to another team who then sends other MLB players or prospects to the Rays along with Trumbo, i.e. a 3-way trade.
8. Finally I don't think the Angels should pursue this route unless we require David Price to sign a long-term extension with us as a condition of the trade. Two years of Price would be awesome but our short-term future would be barren and even more stark than it already is in terms of prospect talent.
9. Recommendation: Don't trade for Price (even if we could somehow) and use our trade assets to acquire young, cost-controlled, starting pitchers, one of which can be inserted into the rotation this season by no later than mid-to-late May.

[beatlesrule]

Look at jsheps post before you decide to get all angry. 

 

They haven't shown anything in the past that says they want players like Howie or Trumbo in a trade. 

 

You're right because the Rays were involved in both of those trades

[beatlesrule]

Do you know what "common sense" is? I assume you do, which makes this rant completely pointless.

 

That was a great link you provided.  Kudos.

[Chuck]

I've said in the past that Richards shouldn't be the piece that holds up a trade, but upon further thought trading him makes zero sense whatsoever. He's literally the only MLB ready, cost-controlled starter they have who actually has some sort of potential and for a team that is supposedly coveting those pieces this offseason, trading theirs would be stupid.

Not that I wouldn't want Price over Richards.

They will not need Richards. They got pitching dood.

[Chuck]

Get. David. Price.

[Tyler]

The Angels can't compete with a package  that consists of Taijuan Walker.

[Stradling]

I would trade Chuck to get David Price and if I had to throw in tdawg I would do it.

[tdawg87]

The M's would be absolutely retarded to trade Walker.

[jshep]

The Angels can't compete with a package  that consists of Taijuan Walker.

 

Honestly, every one of those other teams mentioned has a better centerpiece type guy to offer than the Angels do. And then can throw in a few other pieces on top of it.

 

 I can't possibly imagine why the Rays would prefer whatever cobbled together pile of mid-tier guys the Angels could throw out there.

Edited December 5, 2013 by jshep

[SoWhat]

Unless the M's sign Cano or Beltran/Napoli, I don't see a good reason for them to go after Price. It'd be 2010 all over again when they acquired Cliff Lee

[jshep]

Unless the M's sign Cano or Beltran/Napoli, I don't see a good reason for them to go after Price. It'd be 2010 all over again when they acquired Cliff Lee

 

Or when they acquired Erik Bedard in the ill-fated Adam Jones trade.

[tdawg87]

Go Chuck yourself.

[Quinlanforthewin]

I would give any combo of any amount of players not named Trout or Weaver for Price.  If our farm system is already nothing you can't deplete nothing any further so give them our 5 best minor leaguers, Trumbo and Kendrick and call it good. 

[2002_halos_II]

Don't trade TRUMBO!

[HaloCory22]

This thread is getting good.

[Blarg]

There is no point in trading for Price if he is not going to sign an extension on the spot. He would be just another rental that leaves the Angels talent poor for the 4th season in a row with nothing to show for it.

Edited December 5, 2013 by Eric Notti

[southpaw]

can't we just all get along?    and agree that Joe Blanton sucks

[tdawg87]

no **** off baseball sucks

[Troll Daddy]

I love this place.

[southpaw]

Price for Trumbo, Salas & Jeppy!

 

Done~

watch the Angels do that trade and Jeppy becomes an all-star closer in Tampa  

Edited December 5, 2013 by southpaw

[bloodbrother]

I'd say the Halos don't have the pieces to get Price but we just saw a pretty solid GM(Dombrowski) go and trade a pretty good SP for crap, so who knows

 

Still, if Price is made available, hard to see the Halos outbidding some other teams who have better pieces to offer. Don't buy the M's as an option. They need bats more than arms, and it wouldn't make much sense for them to deal Taijuan to get Price

 

Cubs could be a team I see who end up with Price

[OregonLAA]

I think Chuck is just over all the pessimistic bullshit here. Sure we have had a tough couple years, but we aren't the Cubs. Every single trade or signing or non tender turns into how awful the organization has become. It's ridiculous.

Anyways. Get Price

[mrwicked]

But can you touch the sky?

 

i think about it every night and day...

[HaloCory22]

I'd be okay with Trumbo, Kendrick, Maronde, Cowart for Price as long as he agrees to an extension. I do believe the Rays are in win now mode and might find more value in two players who are MLB proven over top prospects (which they have an ass load of already) Thats the main reason we MIGHT have a chance.

[bloodbrother]

The issue is the Rays obviously can't sport a big payroll and guys like Trumbo are starting to get more expensive and Kendrick is making $9.5 mill. Seems more like they'd be looking to net back cost-controlled players/high end prospects who they can milk a good 5 years out of them before they start to get more expensive to(then they trade them off)