Breaking: Eppard and Picciolo let go - Scioscia and Dipoto staying

[Angel Oracle]

Dino Ebell has already been named the new bench coach.

Ebel has been pretty solid as a 3B coach for the past 8 years.

We just don't know how he will help Scioscia as a right hand man. But I guess they figured that Roenecke made the same move from 3B coach for 6 years to bench coach.

Edited October 9, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[Docwaukee]

Maddon had already been bench coach for several years here before Scioscia arrived, and had already developed a rep for numbers crunching (sabermetrics).

Picciolo has only been a MLB bench coach for the 3 years he was here.

right.  so you are agreeing that the right bench coach is potentially important. 

[Angel Oracle]

So, I guess Bogar stays at Arkansas?

Or would a move to 3B coach here not be seen as a sideways move from manager of a AA champ?

[fan_since79]

This thread is moving along nicely, even without a knock-down, drag-out LT argument.

[Angel Oracle]

These moves are the equivalent of bitching at the waitress at Claim Jumper because your food is undercooked.

Never have a problem with my favorite dish: BBQ chicken sandwich with Gouda cheese and potato cheesecakes.

[mp170.6]

If I was a player in a deep funk, and in need of some reinforcement, I don't think talking to Scioscia would help.  His demeanor is so robotic and his comments (at least to the media) so predictable, that I can't envision any scenario where talking to Mike would be productive. 

 

This is where Joe Madden was especially helpful I think. 

[Angel Oracle]

We suck again

We need to bring in Bobby Boucher Balfour.

[mancini79]

Most fans do not even know who these guys are.

 

Then they aren't REAL FANS.

[Docwaukee]

I would like to acknowledge that this thread is very similar to the response that aw had when we traded for Vernon Wells.

 

Look how well that turned out. 

[mp170.6]

Then they aren't REAL FANS.

 

Bruce Nye, did you hack mancini's account?

[Docwaukee]

If I was a player in a deep funk, and in need of some reinforcement, I don't think talking to Scioscia would help.  His demeanor is so robotic and his comments (at least to the media) so predictable, that I can't envision any scenario where talking to Mike would be productive. 

 

This is where Joe Madden was especially helpful I think. 

have you ever talked to Mike?  I have.  He's nothing like what you are describing. 

[mp170.6]

have you ever talked to Mike?  I have.  He's nothing like what you are describing. 

 

No, I haven't.

 

How is he different? 

[jshep]

So, I guess Bogar stays at Arkansas?

Or would a move to 3B coach here not be seen as a sideways move from manager of a AA champ?

 

Well, he was the 3B coach for Boston before getting hired as Arkansas's manager...

[Docwaukee]

No, I haven't.

 

How is he different? 

He's actually very charismatic and naturally commands a room.  He's quite funny and entertaining.  He's far from robotic.  Don't know what it would be like to interact with him on a daily basis and I haven't seen him angry or frustrated, so I am not sure how dealing with that would be, but his canned responses to the media are likely far from his true persona.  Whether that's good or bad is tough to say. 

[Inside Pitch]

Daren Erstad as hitting coach

 

Well, those who can, do; those who can't, teach...    I guess it would fit in this case.

[VariousCrap]

It seems to me that Arte knew people were expecting some sort of firings and these are the two he was willing to give. 

 

It is what it is.

[Brent Maguire]

I really don't have much else to add but I'll just say it's very odd to fire the hitting coach when the offense wasn't the issue. 

[mp170.6]

He's actually very charismatic and naturally commands a room.  He's quite funny and entertaining.  He's far from robotic.  Don't know what it would be like to interact with him on a daily basis and I haven't seen him angry or frustrated, so I am not sure how dealing with that would be, but his canned responses to the media are likely far from his true persona.  Whether that's good or bad is tough to say. 

 

Interesting. 

 

I believe what you're saying, but I don't think the personality traits we see publicly come with an on/off switch.  If we as fans are annoyed by his worn out cliches, and other personality traits, I'm sure the players feel the same way at some level. 

 

Speaking only for myself, if I'm frustrated and looking for advice, I'm far less likely to approach someone when I can predict what they will say in advance.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if Scioscia repeats the "turn the page" nonsense behind closed doors. 

[Inside Pitch]

If Tim Bogar gets the 3B job -- my guess is he is the heir apparent to MS....

[SoWhat]

Bogar is an intriguing option. He hasn't found a managerial job, but was always a frontrunner for the ones he applied for. Everything players have said about him have always been positive like the one below

"Dustin Pedroia called Bogar a “calming voice” and Mike Aviles noted that he’d always go to Bogar with questions because “he’s one of those guys who has great communication skills.”

[HaloNation]

lol @ keeping MS

 

what a joke of an organization

[Tyler]

We're gonna end up with Nagy and Sax somehow.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

@Alden_Gonzalez: Dipoto & Scioscia are coming back, and now they have a coaching staff to round out. A look at potential candidates: http://t.co/04N9KNQbvo

[Brandon]

Interesting.

I believe what you're saying, but I don't think the personality traits we see publicly come with an on/off switch. If we as fans are annoyed by his worn out cliches, and other personality traits, I'm sure the players feel the same way at some level.

Speaking only for myself, if I'm frustrated and looking for advice, I'm far less likely to approach someone when I can predict what they will say in advance. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Scioscia repeats the "turn the page" nonsense behind closed doors.

Doc is right. I've met him on two occasions, once in the player parking lot after a game with Vlads family and once when Chuck gave me a press pass and I spent all day at the stadium....I had limitations but saw enough of him to back my initial assessment.

He's nothing like he is with the media. He seems to have a switch and is almost tiresome of the same dumb questions over all the years and just gives the minimum answers to get through it.

He is gregarious and the life of the party. He jokes about his weight and eating lasagna, so he can laugh at himself and is a funny guy.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Most fans do not even know who these guys are.

That's why its so frustrating. AO never even got a chance to name them.