Take the Halos and Run?

[Ohtaniland]

http://www.ocweekly.com/2013-09-12/news/arte-moreno-angels-anaheim/

 

 

This guy is upset with Arte.

[Angel Oracle]

Who fires 40 employees?

The starry eyed one, that's who.

[jshep]

"And then, in the beginning of 2005, you blew away all that goodwill by insisting on renaming the team the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim."

 

Oh good lord, this shit again.

[Taylor]

I posted a comment:

 

This is pretty much the worst article I've ever read. It reminds me of some of the whiny tirades you'd hear from members of the California state government. You also need a new fact-checker:

--Orlando Cabrera was not signed along with Vladimir Guerrero and Bartolo Colon during the 2003/2004 off-season. The Angels signed him one year later, during the 2004/2005 off-season.
--You list Gary Matthews, Jr. as one of the embarrassing signings made since Moreno started declining as a successful owner. I agree that it was a horrendous signing. However, you then mention Torii Hunter as someone whom Moreno signed during Moreno's "successful years." Gary Matthews, Jr. was signed one year BEFORE Torii Hunter. So, unless Arte Moreno is a time-traveler, Matthews, Jr. was also signed during Moreno's successful years (according to your timeline).

Edited September 13, 2013 by Taylor

[Tyler]

Embarrassing read.

[Hollyw00d]

douchey article

[Glen]

That was hard to read but I plowed through it.  I had to search for the article mentioned on the first page and the quote in particular; here it is:

 

"Since his first full year as owner of the Angels in 2004, Moreno has fired close to 40 members of the front office, baseball operations department and scouting and medical staffs. The Angels maintain a skeletal front-office staff in many areas, and one of the leanest game-day staffs in all of baseball. If someone is let go, there often is no replacement hired. Moreno is said to gouge hours from his low-paid employees."  Lots of innuendo with nothing backing it up.    The link, if you're interested: http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/scott-miller/23286878/broken-angels-tense-atmosphere-nearly-included-pujols-hunter-fight-in-2012

[Glen]

Who fires 40 employees?

The starry eyed one, that's who.

 

 

 

What if they were fired for good reason? 

[mtangelsfan]

You are trying way too hard Claude.

[Chuck]

I still love Arte. I don't get the hate.

[Ray McKigney]

Arte is an incredibly smart businessman. He became a billionaire because he knows what he is doing. He just needs to stay away from the personnel decisions. 

[Docwaukee]

that article is embarrassing to actual Angel fans.  Hopefully, this guy represents the vocal minority. 

 

good franchises have bad seasons.  it happens.  Grow a pair and move on. 

 

Things go really wrong for the first time in a long time and and all of a sudden the owner is being called out for being how he has been the whole time he has been here. 

 

Actually, that wasn't an article, it was a tatrum equivalent to a 2 year old kicking his legs and slamming his fists on the ground because he's not getting his way. 

[fan_since79]

 

 

 

good franchises have bad seasons.  it happens.  Grow a pair and move on. 

 

 

We tend to have bad decades.

 

 

Edited September 13, 2013 by fan_since79

[Brent Maguire]

This shouldn't even be considered an article. If throwing a fit and being butthurt qualifies as journalism, then it would count.

[Docwaukee]

 

 

 

 

 

We tend to have bad decades.

 

 

 

That's why anyone who has been around should know that one bad season isn't the end of the world.  Even if you jumped on board after 2002, you got to witness the best run of winning seasons in franchise history.  Not saying it isn't frustrating to be where they are currently and everyone has their moments of weakness where it get's the best of you, but to put together a premeditated, petulant tantrum is completely absurd. 

[Ray McKigney]

That's why anyone who has been around should know that one bad season isn't the end of the world.  Even if you jumped on board after 2002, you got to witness the best run of winning seasons in franchise history.  Not saying it isn't frustrating to be where they are currently and everyone has their moments of weakness where it get's the best of you, but to put together a premeditated, petulant tantrum is completely absurd. 

 

I agree. It was petulant.

[markb]

"Hunter is having a career year in Detroit, by the way."

 

Based on WAR, his 13th best season actually, but who's counting.

[YouthofToday]

The article desperately could have used an editor who knew baseball and the Angels.

However, he makes fair points on the Anaheim City Council and their corporate welfare gift to Moreno. I didn't realize the offer was so blatantly against the interests of taxpayers.

Moreno is obviously a very successful businessman.

Moreno, IMO, is also an incredibly incompetent owner of this franchise. If his goal is to win he must be more like Henry Samueli and others. He must stop being an obsessed micromanager with his horrific judgment on player personnel and staff issues.

Seriously, Angel fans should ask for a restraining order from Arte injecting his opinion into matters other than the budget that effect the FO.

[gotbeer]

By the thread title, I thought the futures odds for the 2014 season got posted and the Angels were at 50-1 to win the world series.  

[Troll Daddy]

By the thread title, I thought the futures odds for the 2014 season got posted and the Angels were at 50-1 to win the world series.

If those odds are true ... then now is the time to put down a bet.

All they have to do is make the playoffs then you can hedge your way into a big chunk of cash

Edited September 13, 2013 by Troll Daddy

[Brandon]

I wonder what his user name is here?

[katie]

JoseMaldonado

Gustavo, THANK YOU for this! I was beginning to wonder of any of Orange County's Angels fans had a pulse! I mean, the NERVE of this guy! He comes to town and IMMEDIATELY turns the name of Anaheim into an after-thought! Could you imagine if your wife suddenly decided she wanted to go back to using her ex-husband's last name? Then after you protested, as, a compromise, she HYPHENATES it with yours at the end? Where is the outrage? When my Dodgers had our troubles with McCourt, we came after him with rope and torches. It's your turn, Orange County! The Angels are YOUR TEAM!! This is YOUR TOWN!!

[katie]

STOPTHERECONQUISTA

I recommend getting some hot latina chicks (who come from a culture emphasizing seeexy instead of the Chapman undergrads to shoot t-shirt missiles into the stands in the 7th inning. The gringas are beautiful...but way too much clothes.

[katie]

I posted a comment:

 

This is pretty much the worst article I've ever read. It reminds me of some of the whiny tirades you'd hear from members of the California state government. You also need a new fact-checker:

--Orlando Cabrera was not signed along with Vladimir Guerrero and Bartolo Colon during the 2003/2004 off-season. The Angels signed him one year later, during the 2004/2005 off-season.

--You list Gary Matthews, Jr. as one of the embarrassing signings made since Moreno started declining as a successful owner. I agree that it was a horrendous signing. However, you then mention Torii Hunter as someone whom Moreno signed during Moreno's "successful years." Gary Matthews, Jr. was signed one year BEFORE Torii Hunter. So, unless Arte Moreno is a time-traveler, Matthews, Jr. was also signed during Moreno's successful years (according to your timeline).

He responded to you with "Thanks!"

[nate]

That was pathetic.  OC Weekly should be pretty embarrassed.