Another proof that Iannetta is horrible on defense

[rageous]

This is from fangraphs article on pitchers and catchers ability to stop the running game and surprise Ianetta comes out last.

He was also shown as one of the worst pitch framers in baseball as well.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2013s-top-batteries-at-preventing-the-running-game/#more-135425

 

 

 

 

Bottom 25 Catchers:

Catcher IP SBArs CSrs SBrs bBRS Chris Iannetta 752 -5.93 -1.22 -4.15 -11.31 Jarrod Saltalamacchia 831 -5.75 -0.37 -3.69 -9.81 Michael McKenry 253 -5.12 0.09 -3.36 -8.40 Nick Hundley 695 -6.92 2.02 -3.43 -8.34 Alex Avila 638 -3.21 -1.38 -2.54 -7.14 Kurt Suzuki 659 -0.94 -3.52 -2.02 -6.48 Jonathan Lucroy 844 -3.39 0.30 -1.96 -5.06 Jose Lobaton 533 -1.36 -1.62 -1.50 -4.47 Jesus Montero 225 -1.32 -1.61 -1.47 -4.40 George Kottaras 223 -3.71 1.14 -1.81 -4.38 Carlos Santana 646 0.34 -3.40 -1.19 -4.25 Ryan Lavarnway 131 -3.64 1.18 -1.76 -4.22 Dioner Navarro 330 -3.45 0.97 -1.73 -4.21 Brayan Pena 442 -3.08 0.75 -1.59 -3.92 Jose Molina 585 -3.59 1.43 -1.62 -3.78 Hank Conger 385 -3.55 1.65 -1.51 -3.40 Hector Sanchez 90 -1.67 -0.41 -1.20 -3.27 Bryan Holaday 75 -1.74 -0.28 -1.19 -3.20 Jason Castro 764 -1.76 -0.16 -1.15 -3.07 John Jaso 364 -0.36 -1.68 -0.91 -2.95 Tyler Flowers 673 -1.68 -0.13 -1.09 -2.89 Yorvit Torrealba 343 -3.17 2.02 -1.12 -2.27 Josh Thole 194 -2.25 1.00 -0.98 -2.23 Buster Posey 853 -1.13 0.22 -0.60 -1.51 Miguel Olivo 141 -1.85 1.08 -0.70 -1.46
 

 

[HaloCory22]

I blame Iannetta for this entire season's failure.

[ettin]

The pitch framing I already knew about and that was the reason I posted that Blind Player Pick thing the other day. If Iannetta can be traded before next season and if we can find a decent back up to Conger I'd be okay with that scenario.

 

There is a possibility that Iannetta has been playing hurt: http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/mash-report-9313/ (see bottom list)

 

However, I still feel that Chris' only contribution is his OBP. His catching ability is certainly in question. The Angels will really need to evaluate Iannetta and determine his health and worth before next season.

[Angel Oracle]

Another Dipoto move (Iannetta/Chatwood trade) blowing up in his face

Edited September 3, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[Hollyw00d]

Dipoto is the Bad luck Brian of GMs.

Chat wood pitched like dog crap while with the angels. Then again, butcher?

Edited September 3, 2013 by Hollyw00d

[happybat4]

Dipoto is the Bad luck Brian of GMs.

Chat wood pitched like dog crap while with the angels. Then again, butcher?

I wouldn't say Chatwood was crap when he was here. If I remember he started pretty well, something like 9-3 with a high 3 ERA his first half season. His whip was high though. He was young, like 21 when he was with the angels. I wish we had him pitching and hitting cleanup this year.

[HaloFan85]

I think the team is 27-23 when Conger starts at catcher this year.

[Docwaukee]

the staff doesn't hold runners well.  That said, Hank appears to have done a better job at stopping the run. 

 

Hank is better at framing and calling pitches.  They are both similar offensively.  Hank the better hitter, Chris with better discipline. 

 

Hank is younger and has a chance to improve as well so the decision is obvious. 

 

Any catcher is going to look better when you remove hansen, blanton ,and williams from the rotation.

[fan_since79]

Mathis' CS rate this year is 35%.

 

Iannetta's is 17%.

[Tank]

i blame cory for blaming ianetta for this season's failures.

[rageous]

the staff doesn't hold runners well.  That said, Hank appears to have done a better job at stopping the run. 

 

Hank is better at framing and calling pitches.  They are both similar offensively.  Hank the better hitter, Chris with better discipline. 

 

Hank is younger and has a chance to improve as well so the decision is obvious. 

 

Any catcher is going to look better when you remove hansen, blanton ,and williams from the rotation.

Hanson is on his own level when it comes to how terrible he is at holding runners.

His stupid cock on his delivery allows any decent runner to easily steal on him at will.

[AngelsLakersFan]

To be fair to Iannetta, the study found that pitchers were vastly more important in their contributions to 'catcher defense' than the catcher himself is. At the same time Tommy Hansen and Joe Blanton were two of the worst rated pitchers in the study, and Hank Conger did make the 'worst' list as well.

 

It would appear that Iannetta being rated worse is something of a perfect storm. He has had a terrible pitching staff to work with, and he has not been able to do much on his own to help it.

[HeavenlyHalos]

Hanson is on his own level when it comes to how terrible he is at holding runners.

His stupid cock on his delivery allows any decent runner to easily steal on him at will.

 

lol

[Ohtaniland]

Just when was Iannetta ever a good catcher? No All Stars Games, No Gold Gloves and he can't hit outside of Coors Field.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Mathis' CS rate this year is 35%.

 

Iannetta's is 17%.

 

Runners don't need to steal against the Marlins. They just hang around the bag and wait for the ball to go over the wall.