The Official (2024) Los Angeles Angels Trade Deadline Thread

[Stradling]

 

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, Ochocinco! said:

I can’t imagine Drury is worth anything more than a yearly subscription to YouTube TV

Sling maybe.  YouTube TV might require a throw in on the Halos part.

[Chuck]

If Arte gives Perry full authority to deal anyone not named O'Hoppe, Neto and Schanuel and our GM shits the bed, he should be fired a day after the trade deadline. 

[case]

16 minutes ago, Chuck said:

If Arte gives Perry full authority to deal anyone not named O'Hoppe, Neto and Schanuel and our GM shits the bed, he should be fired a day after the trade deadline. 

100% buddy.  We should be using this time to start a full rebuild. Our farm is trash and needs help.

[Ron Mexico]

37 minutes ago, Chuck said:

If Arte gives Perry full authority to deal anyone not named O'Hoppe, Neto and Schanuel and our GM shits the bed, he should be fired a day after the trade deadline. 

But that's a Big If but would we ever know if Arte did or not

[Ron Mexico]

39 minutes ago, Chuck said:

If Arte gives Perry full authority to deal anyone not named O'Hoppe, Neto and Schanuel and our GM shits the bed, he should be fired a day after the trade deadline. 

Perry wanted to trade Ohtani 2.5 years ago but Arte blocked him 

[jsnpritchett]

An...interesting choice by Washington here in who he lists as the core.

 

[Ron Mexico]

48 minutes ago, Chuck said:

If Arte gives Perry full authority to deal anyone not named O'Hoppe, Neto and Schanuel and our GM shits the bed, he should be fired a day after the trade deadline. 

The last 2 GM has always had their hands tied cause of Arte. I would never dare blame a GM besides jerry dipoto while Arte is the owner 

[Angels 1961]

5 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

An...interesting choice by Washington here in who he lists as the core.

 

Halo HR and RBI leader going to be traded. Mike Trout is not there. 

[totdprods]

6 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

An...interesting choice by Washington here in who he lists as the core.

 

Eh I wouldn’t read too much into it. I’m not sure Ron can even name everyone correctly on the team still. 

[Angelsjunky]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

An...interesting choice by Washington here in who he lists as the core.

 

Interesting that mentions Moniak but not Adell.

[totdprods]

17 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Interesting that mentions Moniak but not Adell.

Detmers? Soriano? Joyce? 

I wouldn’t read into it very much. If anything, the only thing notable is not saying Rengifo, Ward or Anderson.

[Lazorko Saves]

4 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Will someone please make a gif of Perry Minasian with the Zach Galifinakis math?

[Angels 1961]

31 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Interesting that mentions Moniak but not Adell.

Moniak was at RW press conference when he was hired. Rodger Lodge was also present.

[Angels 1961]

33 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Interesting that mentions Moniak but not Adell.

Moniak never bats 9th

[Lazorko Saves]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

Moniak was at RW press conference when he was hired. Rodger Lodge was also present.

So Rodger Lodge also untouchable in any trade...

[Angels 1961]

Relief pitchers will be gone, Carlos, Strickland, Garcia and maybe Moore. Drury maybe but Pillar and Calhoun could be gone. Anderson, Ward and Rengifo may stay till this off season.

[m0nkey]

45 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Interesting that mentions Moniak but not Adell.

He hates blacks

[HaloBronco]

28 minutes ago, Lazorko Saves said:

Nice!

[Angelsjunky]

36 minutes ago, Lazorko Saves said:

I love you.

[BTH]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

Moniak was at RW press conference when he was hired. Rodger Lodge was also present.

So was Kenny Rosenberg.

Your point?

[BTH]

6 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

I'd say the baseline of what the Angels players are worth is something like this:

50 FV: Rengifo

45+: Anderson

45: Estevez (maybe higher)

40+: Strickland, Garcia, Ward

40: Pillar, Guillorme, Moore

35/no trade value: Calhoun, Drury

Estevez is a guy that some team might over-pay on, so hopefully Perry can get a 45+ guy for him, maybe even 50.

I’d say:

Ward: 45+
Rengifo/Anderson: 45
Estévez: 40+
García/Strickland: 40
Pillar: 35+

Rest you mentioned probably have no value.

Edited July 27 by BTH

[greginpsca]

SELL PERRY, SELL!!!

[ThisismineScios]

7 hours ago, samwum said:

Hey man. I appreciate your opinion. I love Gifo. 

All of these topics you mentioned could or likely do arguably sway for Arozarena. 

• Gifo plays shitty defense at premium defensive positions. 2B, 3B, SS defense matters. Having a shitty defensive LF is pretty standard. Playoff teams know that you lose playoff games when a guy boots a grounder or can't turn a quick double play.
• Rengifo is a switch hitter but he's probably more a platoon threat than Arozarena. They both smash left handed pitching equally well. Arozarena has a better track record against righties.
• Speed is basically the same. Arozarena has been a 20-30 SB guy for a long time. Rengifo is pacing for like 30-35 after not doing fuck all on the bases previous. Neither's Rickey Henderson
• Stats go for Gifo the last 70 games yeah, and then they go for Arozarena their entire careers prior. Peripherals are pretty much even. You want the guy who has overachieved so far in 2024, or underachieved so far in 2024? Ultimate brain teaser for Minasian

 

Just going to re-post so people don't get caught up in this dumbassery

• Both have multiple years of team control left 
• Both have unimpressive statcast peripherals, although currently Gifo is overperforming, and Arozarena is underperforming
• Both dominate LHP, but sometimes struggle against RHP
• Both have good, not great, speed
• Both have had ups and downs with plate discipline (although Rengifo's is likely worse)
• Both are rate negatively in the field (although Rengifo offers versatility)
• Both usually pace for 2-3.5 WAR but don't have superstar potential 

 

 

Yes, but you'll notice the chatter is "teams need a 3B/2B and love Rengifo's versatility." Nobody is dropping out of the race because he is a below average fielder. They are looking at the bat, not the glove (Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox). And his bat has been way better. 

He's been a true switch hitter minus some power. He's hitting .290 in 4x the number of ABs against RHP. He strikes out less often against RHP. Arozarena has been awful vs. RHP this year, and much worse for his whole career (OPS .170 lower, AVG 44 points lower). 

Rengifo is working on his 3rd very solid season in a row. Right now, he's a much better player and plays a much more valuable position. And he's a year younger. I will absolutely acknowledge Arozarena has been better for the last several years. 

I guarantee you right now Rengifo has more value than Arozarena. And Ward should too, but he won't bring in as much because of the name. 

[ThisismineScios]

1 hour ago, BTH said:

I’d say:

Ward: 45+
Rengifo/Anderson: 45
Estévez: 40+
García/Strickland: 40
Pillar: 35+

Rest you mentioned probably have no value.

You don't think the Angels can get for Rengifo what the Rays just got for Eflin?