The Official 2024 Minor League Stats, Scouting, Updates, and Reports Thread

[BTH]

I think they need to start trading for some bats.

Part of the idea behind drafting so many pitchers was that everyone needs pitchers and pitchers are always valuable. Yet they haven’t moved any for a controllable bat.

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, m0nkey said:

Damn, are the bats that bad?

Yes.  Possibly the worst its been since before Stoneman showed up. 

[Inside Pitch]

40 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Other than Christian Moore, there's not really anyone who seems like an obvious impact bat.

You're right, but for me its less the lack of impact type bats, it's the lack of even replacement level bats at AA and above that's problematic.

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

You're right, but for me its less the lack of impact type bats, it's the lack of even replacement level bats at AA and above that's problematic.

Yep, it's both, really.  Just a barren wasteland.

[Inside Pitch]

11 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Yep, it's both, really.  Just a barren wasteland.

They could legitimately cut the entire AAA position player pool, go sign 6th year FAs next year and still possibly improve.  At AA they could get rid of everyone in their age 23 season or older and not be any worse off for it

 

 

[Inside Pitch]

Its hilarious but this may be the first time since the tail end of the Bavasi era where they might actually benefit from being able to pick guys from the MINOR league portion of the Rule 5 draft in December.

As bad as it may sound an enema like this may be just what that system needs.  

[Make Angels Great Again]

51 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Yes.  Possibly the worst its been since before Stoneman showed up. 

I don’t know…wasn’t Taylor Lindsey our top bat prospect some years ago?

[Inside Pitch]

9 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

I don’t know…wasn’t Taylor Lindsey our top bat prospect some years ago?

Yes, and those teams had better depth than there currently is in AA..  CJ Cron, Randall Grichuk, Kole Calhoun, Grant Green, were in AA AAA, and breaking into the majors at the time.  

It really is that bad above A ball position player wise.

[Vlad27Trout27]

I feel like they need to target some real power bats in next year's draft. Besides Moore, the talent drops off at the position players and power potential . They need to grab some guys with good power projection and hopefully get some good pitching development next year to. Need someone to take Dana's spot.  

[BTH]

The Arizona Fall League rosters supposedly get announced in the next couple weeks.

Here's a list of potential candidates, imo:

Currently injured guys who could possibly use more reps/innings, if healthy: Christian Moore, George Klassen, Matthew Lugo, Cole Fontenelle, Nick Jones, Sam Bachman, Walbert Urena.

Healthy guys that could use more reps/innings: Ryan Costieu, David Calabrese, Alberto Rios, Kyren Paris.

Guys they might want to see more of to get a better evaluation on: Randy De Jesus, Yeferson Vargas, Victor Mederos, and any R5 eligible relievers.

 

If I had to guess the 7 guys picked: Matthew Lugo, Ryan Costieu, David Calabrese, Alberto Rios, Yeferson Vargas, Carlos Espinosa, and Nick Mondak.

[Angel Oracle]

If they do get the 1st or 2nd pick, DO NOT draft an under slot player in order to draft a HS pitcher in the 11th round for a $2 million bonus.  They already accomplished enough with Dana, Kent, and Gregory-Alford.

Need offense that early while having the chance, as well as early in the 2nd round.

Thst early pick HAS to be on one of the top 2 projected picks.   Can not be cute when drafting that early.

Edited Friday at 03:30 PM by Angel Oracle

[Inside Pitch]

9 hours ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

I feel like they need to target some real power bats in next year's draft. Besides Moore, the talent drops off at the position players and power potential . They need to grab some guys with good power projection and hopefully get some good pitching development next year to. Need someone to take Dana's spot.  

Power is a nice bonus, just get hitters that actually know how to hit and don't have contact issues or are allergic to walks.

[jsnpritchett]

 

 

[totdprods]

14 hours ago, BTH said:

I think they need to start trading for some bats.

Part of the idea behind drafting so many pitchers was that everyone needs pitchers and pitchers are always valuable. Yet they haven’t moved any for a controllable bat.

I think it’ll happen in due time. The pitching depth is building on the farm, but it still isn’t quite “ready” and as always said, can never have enough pitching. The MLB team’s lineup is fairly set for 2025-2026, barring of course injury which will happen.

2025: O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Rengifo, Neto, Rendon, Ward, Trout, Moniak/Adell, with Moore to factor in somewhere. 

Rengifo hits FA end of 2025.

2026: O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Moore, Neto, Rendon, Ward, Trout, Moniak/Adell

After 2026, Ward and Rendon hit FA, so it’s currently looking like…

2027: O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Moore, Neto, 3B, potentially Moniak, Trout, Adell

Obviously, all of that will go out the window once injuries start, once Ward/Rengifo are traded, once Rendon likely gets DFAed, but they also have time to draft a young hitter, try to develop guys who have some everyday potential in Fontenelle, Rada, Flint, Mershon (all of whom I think are actually better suited for bench roles, but that’s also important), and also play in FA. By late 2026 we could start to see the current IE international wave start to be on the fringes of MLB depth too - De Jesus, Scull, Castillo, Placencia, Guzman, Ortiz, Laverde, Flores, maybe Lugo.

I’d rather they keep focusing on pitching as much as possible. I really think he’s following what the Braves did. They had a ridiculous amount of pitching depth a few years back, and eventually those guys start reaching R5 eligibility or out of options or get buried on depth charts, and that’s when you can make a 1:1 arm for bat deal, or maybe even get a quantity over quality deal for a solid young bat too. 

We need to get to a point where we have about 8-10 starters who were comfortable with, and probably around 15-20 relievers. Not all on 40-man, not all necessarily MLB-ready, but close enough that you can do what we’ve done with Kochanowicz and Aldegheri this year and not feel like you’re playing with fire with their development. 

[jsnpritchett]

Christian Moore is back.  So far tonight, he's 3 for 3 with a 2B, 2 singles, and 4 RBI.

[tdawg87]

Season not over

[jsnpritchett]

3 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Season not over

Rocket City's season ends tomorrow. Assuming he's healthy (and he sure seems to be), I'd love to see him with the Angels the next couple weeks. Release Lopez and get him up here ASAP. 

[Angel Oracle]

18 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Rocket City's season ends tomorrow. Assuming he's healthy (and he sure seems to be), I'd love to see him with the Angels the next couple weeks. Release Lopez and get him up here ASAP. 

Why is Lopez even here?

Seems like a dirty peanut, with a .643 career minor league OPS???

Edited Sunday at 12:56 AM by Angel Oracle

[Vlad27Trout27]

Moore is back and on fire.

Meanwhile, Klasson has been untouchable—through 5 innings, no hits, no walks, and 11 strikeouts.

[Vlad27Trout27]

On 9/13/2024 at 5:31 AM, Inside Pitch said:

Power is a nice bonus, just get hitters that actually know how to hit and don't have contact issues or are allergic to walks.

 

I agree, for me there are really two main approaches. In the first 2 to 3 rounds, it's smart to take the best available player, whether that's a pitcher or hitter. After that, you can start targeting players with 55/60 power potential but questionable hit tools, or go the opposite direction with guys who have solid hit tools but less power potential. It all depends on how you want to balance your roster pertaiing to hitters. 

 

[BTH]

8 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Why is Lopez even here?

Because Perry does a horrible job at building position player depth.

[Vlad27Trout27]

On 9/13/2024 at 8:18 AM, totdprods said:

I think it’ll happen in due time. The pitching depth is building on the farm, but it still isn’t quite “ready” and as always said, can never have enough pitching. The MLB team’s lineup is fairly set for 2025-2026, barring of course injury which will happen.

2025: O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Rengifo, Neto, Rendon, Ward, Trout, Moniak/Adell, with Moore to factor in somewhere. 

Rengifo hits FA end of 2025.

2026: O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Moore, Neto, Rendon, Ward, Trout, Moniak/Adell

After 2026, Ward and Rendon hit FA, so it’s currently looking like…

2027: O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Moore, Neto, 3B, potentially Moniak, Trout, Adell

Obviously, all of that will go out the window once injuries start, once Ward/Rengifo are traded, once Rendon likely gets DFAed, but they also have time to draft a young hitter, try to develop guys who have some everyday potential in Fontenelle, Rada, Flint, Mershon (all of whom I think are actually better suited for bench roles, but that’s also important), and also play in FA. By late 2026 we could start to see the current IE international wave start to be on the fringes of MLB depth too - De Jesus, Scull, Castillo, Placencia, Guzman, Ortiz, Laverde, Flores, maybe Lugo.

I’d rather they keep focusing on pitching as much as possible. I really think he’s following what the Braves did. They had a ridiculous amount of pitching depth a few years back, and eventually those guys start reaching R5 eligibility or out of options or get buried on depth charts, and that’s when you can make a 1:1 arm for bat deal, or maybe even get a quantity over quality deal for a solid young bat too. 

We need to get to a point where we have about 8-10 starters who were comfortable with, and probably around 15-20 relievers. Not all on 40-man, not all necessarily MLB-ready, but close enough that you can do what we’ve done with Kochanowicz and Aldegheri this year and not feel like you’re playing with fire with their development. 

 

Ideally, you'd want a few of the guys still in the minors to take that next big step, especially now that Dana, Aldegheri, and others have been called up or graduated. This would help fill their spots in the system and allow Parry to focus more on position players in next year's draft.

I see Klasson and Costieu on the rise and close to stepping in to replace those guys. I still believe in Klasson's stuff and think he'll be fine as a starter, and I believe Costieu has the tools to start as well. Now, we just need one or two more guys from this year’s class to break out.

[rafibomb]

 

Edited Sunday at 01:08 AM by rafibomb

[tdawg87]

That's sad

[rafibomb]