The Official Los Angeles Angels 2023-2024 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[Docwaukee]

34 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

If they wanted to spur urgency and create greater balance instead of taking away picks they could simply reward picks to teams losing players.  Yes, you may see more teams be willing to lose players but a glut may actually slow the increase in salaries or even drive them down.  Marvin Miller was smart enough to realize that too many FAs was a bad thing.  But a tiered system of automatic minimum compensation with the potential for extra picks or increased draft and international money would actually be of greater benefit to the team losing the players.... The problem, that would mean paying players on the low end more and the owners don't want that.... Anything but that.  

 

NBA and NFL seem to have a fairly appropriate structure for free agents and newbies.  Baseball is such a different dynamic though with the sheer number of players and necessary development structure.  And the sheer volume of games.  

To me, the first step in all of this is incorporating intl players into the draft and probably more importantly, a free market for trading draft picks.  I think that would change the entire economic landscape of baseball.  

[Ochocinco!]

I think one of the two pitchers sign this weekend. Boras seems to like these weekend deals so they don’t get too much press and attention for being the poor contracts that they are (Chapman signed on a Friday, Belly on a Saturday). And if they don’t sign… then well get f**ked 

[Inside Pitch]

7 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

NBA and NFL seem to have a fairly appropriate structure for free agents and newbies.  Baseball is such a different dynamic though with the sheer number of players and necessary development structure.  And the sheer volume of games.  

To me, the first step in all of this is incorporating intl players into the draft and probably more importantly, a free market for trading draft picks.  I think that would change the entire economic landscape of baseball.  

The compensation picks have proven to be a massive gain for teams that get them -- almost always a better value than having the money to throw at FAs.

[Inside Pitch]

4 hours ago, Ochocinco! said:

then well get f**ked 

Also, F the Dodgers!

[Tank]

7 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

NBA and NFL seem to have a fairly appropriate structure for free agents and newbies.  Baseball is such a different dynamic though with the sheer number of players and necessary development structure.  And the sheer volume of games.  

To me, the first step in all of this is incorporating intl players into the draft and probably more importantly, a free market for trading draft picks.  I think that would change the entire economic landscape of baseball.  

Let me make a few calls. BRB. 

[Stradling]

 

[Ochocinco!]

Good on Rosenthal for not being a Boras puppet and calling him out 
 

[T.G.]

10 hours ago, Tank said:

they'll be fine if they don't order the fries.

 

Sir, when you insult INO, you insult America.  How dare you!

[Erstad Grit]

I wonder if this offseason is the moment when Boras is no longer the super agent.

 

[Ochocinco!]

11 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I wonder if this offseason is the moment when Boras is no longer the super agent.

 

Unfortunately I doubt it, next off-season he has Soto, Burnes and Bregman to name a few… it’ll be business as normal for him

[jsnpritchett]

 

[Stradling]

 

[Stradling]

Haha

[BTH]

I respect Votto a ton, but glad he signed elsewhere.

If he wasn’t going back to the Reds, Toronto was perfect.

Now, the Angels still gotta add JDM or Belt.

[EdmontonAngelsFan]

Bullet dodged by not signing Votto. That was scary for a bit there!

[tdawg87]

Thank you, Blue Jays!

[Erstad Grit]

12 minutes ago, EdmontonAngelsFan said:

Bullet dodged by not signing Votto. That was scary for a bit there!

It was a strange rumor.

A team signing him to an invite for ST would have been a reasonable lotto ticket. I think Votto has hurt himself by not maximizing ST at-bats. 

[jsnpritchett]

1 hour ago, Erstad Grit said:

It was a strange rumor.

A team signing him to an invite for ST would have been a reasonable lotto votto ticket. I think Votto has hurt himself by not maximizing ST at-bats. 

 

[Erstad Grit]

26 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

[UndertheHalo]

What do people think Lorenzen will get? He seems like a no brainer fit. 

[Angels 1961]

14 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

What do people think Lorenzen will get? He seems like a no brainer fit. 

He wants 2 years

[jsnpritchett]

Early in spring training, yes--but I've seen nothing from Plesac so far that indicates he's going to be able to contribute this year.

[Docwaukee]

8 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

He wants 2 years

wait.  Are you Lorenzen?  

[Erstad Grit]

36 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

What do people think Lorenzen will get? He seems like a no brainer fit. 

I'd guess Cardinals take a look with Gray down. Lorenzen could be a nice SP who is able to shift to the pen. 

Edited March 8 by Erstad Grit

[Ochocinco!]

Id guess Lorenzen gets a $4-5 million deal with incentives that can take it up to the $10 mill range