2024 Presidential Election

[Crampknees]

9 hours ago, Spirit said:

 

Isn't that where Kotchman's trailer is. 

[Spirit]

3 hours ago, Crampknees said:

Isn't that where Kotchman's trailer is. 

 

Kotchman strikes me as more of a compound guy

 

[Jay]

 

[St1ck]

Elon Musk’s offer of ‘free internet’ to Hurricane Milton victims isn’t quite what it seems

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-hurricane-milton-internet-starlink-b2627190.html

However, the billionaire failed to mention that victims of the disasters would need to purchase a Starlink starter kit for almost $400, The Register first reported.

 

Starlink’s website allows users in the affected hurricane zone to input their address, which then waives the service charge. However, the total cost, including the hardware, tax, shipping, and handling, still amounts to $396.68.

After 30 days, customers who qualify for free access will be automatically moved onto a $120-a-month subscription.

[Taylor]

17 hours ago, Spirit said:

 

I'm sure you'll find discounts on the secondary market

@UndertheHalo has some knowledge here.

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, St1ck said:

Elon Musk’s offer of ‘free internet’ to Hurricane Milton victims isn’t quite what it seems

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-hurricane-milton-internet-starlink-b2627190.html

However, the billionaire failed to mention that victims of the disasters would need to purchase a Starlink starter kit for almost $400, The Register first reported.

 

Starlink’s website allows users in the affected hurricane zone to input their address, which then waives the service charge. However, the total cost, including the hardware, tax, shipping, and handling, still amounts to $396.68.

After 30 days, customers who qualify for free access will be automatically moved onto a $120-a-month subscription.

@Spirit Thoughts?

[Spirit]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

@Spirit Thoughts?

 

That's the offer that's on their website.

 

[Taylor]

[St1ck]

9 hours ago, Taylor said:

@Spirit Thoughts?

He did it out of the kindness of his heart. Also for $400 and a monthly subscription.

[arch stanton]

Profiting off the misery of others is a grand American tradition that dates back to at least the Civil War 

[Kotchman]

1 hour ago, arch stanton said:

Profiting off the misery of others is a grand American tradition that dates back to at least the Civil War 

Pretty sure the practice started long before America 

[arch stanton]

57 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

Pretty sure the practice started long before America 

But American traditions did not start before America

[Kotchman]

57 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

But American traditions did not start before America

Thanksgiving?

[Spirit]

6 hours ago, Kotchman said:

Thanksgiving?

 

They celebrated Thanksgiving Day in America before America?

 

[Kotchman]

2 hours ago, Spirit said:

 

They celebrated Thanksgiving Day in America before America?

 

Are you suggesting the American people and  had no  customs and heritage prior to America? 

Edited October 11 by Kotchman

[Spirit]

39 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

Are you suggesting the American people and  had no  customs and heritage prior to America? 

 

Like @arch stanton, I'm suggesting there were no "American" traditions before there was an America

 

[Blarg]

5 minutes ago, Spirit said:

 

Like @arch stanton, I'm suggesting there were no "American" traditions before there was an America

 

Well, there is the whole squatters thing. 

[Taylor]

33 minutes ago, Spirit said:

 

Like @arch stanton, I'm suggesting there were no "American" traditions before there was an America

 

The most common traditions were killing Native Americans, taking their land, and escaping religious persecution in one country to start new religious-persecution sects in the colonies.

[Kotchman]

18 minutes ago, Taylor said:

The most common traditions were killing Native Americans, taking their land, and escaping religious persecution in one country to start new religious-persecution sects in the colonies.

Who grants land rights?

[Kotchman]

58 minutes ago, Spirit said:

 

Like @arch stanton, I'm suggesting there were no "American" traditions before there was an America

 

So did Americans exist before 1776 or did they all hatch July 4th?

[Jay]

 

[Spirit]

7 hours ago, Kotchman said:

So did Americans exist before 1776 or did they all hatch July 4th?

 

Did Christian exist before Christ arrived?

 

[Kotchman]

13 minutes ago, Spirit said:

 

Did Christian exist before Christ arrived?

 

I’ll argue the foundations of Christianity began before the birth of Christ. The term Christian came years after Christ death. Does that mean The Crucifying of Jesus isn’t Christian history? Are you going to argue Genesis and the Old Testament prophets aren’t part of Christian history?
 

Is the Boston Tea party not part of America’s history ? 

[Spirit]

9 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

I’ll argue the foundations of Christianity began before the birth of Christ. The term Christian came years after Christ death. Does that mean The Crucifying of Jesus isn’t Christian history? Are you going to argue Genesis and the Old Testament prophets aren’t part of Christian history?
 

Is the Boston Tea party not part of America’s history ? 

 

The town was called Boston at the time of the tea party.

You can say that Genesis and the Old Testament prophets are certainly part of the Christian origin story.  But none of them were celebrating Christian traditions.  There was no Christian traditions until there was a Christ.  Just like there were no American traditions until there was an America. 

 

 

[Kotchman]

1 hour ago, Spirit said:

 

The town was called Boston at the time of the tea party.

You can say that Genesis and the Old Testament prophets are certainly part of the Christian origin story.  But none of them were celebrating Christian traditions.  There was no Christian traditions until there was a Christ.  Just like there were no American traditions until there was an America. 

 

 

You’re ignoring the fact that followers of Christ existed before the label Christian. Christian was the name of eventually given to the practice. 
 

Americans existed as a culture with traditions long before the Nation. Our traditions and practices were outlined in our founding documents. From day 1, Americans were predominantly Christian and their traditions came with them. Suggesting America started with a zero traditional balance ignores the fact that our laws came from somewhere. The people put their values and traditions on paper and named them America.
 

Hope fully wife changed her name when you got married. That didn’t change her date of birth or the vast majority of her traditions. It simply changed how people refer to her.