Shohei Ohtani tears UCL, won't pitch again this season

[Angel Oracle]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

The issue with doing this, though, is that in all likelihood, he's not going to pitch at all next season and who knows about '25. So you're paying him $40M/year to be a DH, but you're now without your "ace". Do you just go with a 5-man rotation of Detmers, Sandoval, Anderson, Canning, and Silseth? If not, then you'd need to trade for or sign a starter who would be an upgrade. 

I do get that.

Just go that extra over the tax threshold and push to sign Yamamoto and then trade Anderson while eating at least half of the remaining $26 million?

[Revad]

9 hours ago, Blarg said:

He is still going to win the MVP with one arm tied behind his back. 

But can he do it with his dick tied behind his back?

[Revad]

8 hours ago, ScottT said:

I think he will be ok financially.

Only if he invests wisely

[Angel Oracle]

7 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Pretty miserable stuff fellas.  What can you say.  Huge set back for probably the best player any of us will ever see.  Somehow the Angels are more brutal to follow every year this goes on.  This is like the 4th time this season I’ve earnestly felt they’ve hit rock bottom.  Just an unbelievable disaster of a baseball club. 

Only good thing is the chance to improve draft lottery odds.

[Revad]

2 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

I do get that.

Just go that extra over the tax threshold and push to sign Yamamoto and then trade Anderson while eating at least half of the remaining $26 million?

Well if your going to a

improve the rotation by adding someone like that- somebody’s got to go

[T.G.]

4 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

... then trade Anderson while eating at least half of the remaining $26 million?

Can I sell you a used car that doesn't run very well if I drop the price in half?

[Jason]

41 minutes ago, Jay said:

For once the Angels caught a break. I would like to see the Angels re-sign Ohtani for a couple years. I don't think that a long-term contract is in the cards for Ohtani.

Lol that we are so low that a player possibly needing TJ surgery is catching a break. Sadly, it’s true though. 

[Jason]

13 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

The issue with doing this, though, is that in all likelihood, he's not going to pitch at all next season and who knows about '25. So you're paying him $40M/year to be a DH, but you're now without your "ace". Do you just go with a 5-man rotation of Detmers, Sandoval, Anderson, Canning, and Silseth? If not, then you'd need to trade for or sign a starter who would be an upgrade. 

[Jay]

9 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

The issue with doing this, though, is that in all likelihood, he's not going to pitch at all next season and who knows about '25. So you're paying him $40M/year to be a DH, but you're now without your "ace". Do you just go with a 5-man rotation of Detmers, Sandoval, Anderson, Canning, and Silseth? If not, then you'd need to trade for or sign a starter who would be an upgrade. 

I wouldn't pay that much. I'd basically offer him a home for the next couple of years to play DH and see if he can pitch again. Who's going to offer Ohtani a big contract right now? Take it or leave it kind of thing. Right now they're paying him $30 million to pitch and DH, so offer him $20, I think that's generous.

It would be a good story for the team, the Ohtani comeback, etc.

 

[Revad]

8 minutes ago, T.G. said:

Can I sell you a used car that doesn't run very well if I drop the price in half?

Sure, I’ll trade it for my bridge in San Francisco 

[T.G.]

Just now, Revad said:

Sure, I’ll trade it for my bridge in San Francisco 

My offer was to AO. 

[Revad]

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

Lol that we are so low that a player possibly needing TJ surgery is catching a break. Sadly, it’s true though. 

We are acting responsibly within our budget.

[jsnpritchett]

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

Hey, I'm with you if that's the rotation. But that's my point: if Ohtani can't pitch next year and for part of '25, then signing him to a $40M/year contract is playing with fire, given the other moves the team would need to make. 

[SoCalDucksFan]

I still don't entertain any offer from the Angels, if I'm Ohtani.  I take the salary hit, and go to a contender.  A team that has actually made the Playoffs more than once in the last decade.

If it's all about Winning for him, I get out of Dodge as quickly as I can, because that ain't happening here.  His term with the Angels basically ended with an injury that possibly crippled his career.

[Jay]

16 minutes ago, Jason said:

Lol that we are so low that a player possibly needing TJ surgery is catching a break. Sadly, it’s true though. 

The injury is unfortunate but it's a break for the Angels in the sense that they avoided signing Ohtani to a half-billion-dollar contract a month before he blew out his elbow.

[stormngt]

9 hours ago, Blarg said:

Because he hasn't and learning a fielding position at age 30 would probably lead to more injuries. 

People learn new positions all the time.

[stormngt]

9 hours ago, Blarg said:

in 2014 he played all of 8 games in the outfield for Nippon Ham Fighters. He is not an outfielder.

Thanks for confirming that RF is not a totally new position.

I have seen players transition from infield to outfield, pitcher to outfield, just about every position to 1b.

Sorry but i am not buying "he can't  do it argument".

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Unbelievable. The Los Angeles Murphy's Law of Anaheim. 

[T.G.]

He's not going to play a position on the field in the near future because he won't be able to throw!  So this argument about him being able to or not being able to play a position is moot. 

[Revad]

17 minutes ago, T.G. said:

My offer was to AO. 

I’m a social worker in my heart and social workers are natural born negotiators.  We grab a chance to do that.

[Jason]

11 minutes ago, Jay said:

The injury is unfortunate but it's a break for the Angels in the sense that they avoided signing Ohtani to a half-billion-dollar contract a month before he blew out his elbow.

I fully agree but it sounds really weird to say it’s a break. 

[Jason]

12 minutes ago, stormngt said:

People learn new positions all the time.

[Jay]

16 minutes ago, SoCalDucksFan said:

I still don't entertain any offer from the Angels, if I'm Ohtani.  I take the salary hit, and go to a contender.  A team that has actually made the Playoffs more than once in the last decade.

If it's all about Winning for him, I get out of Dodge as quickly as I can, because that ain't happening here.  His term with the Angels basically ended with an injury that possibly crippled his career.

That's fine. I wonder if the "contenders" still want him, or if he'll end up in KC because they offered $1 million more than the Angels.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

That's fine. I wonder if the "contenders" still want him, or if he'll end up in KC because they offered $1 million more than the Angels.

We still don’t know the extent of the injury but I feel confident he can be an everyday DH and he’s really freaking good at that. 

[Jay]

14 minutes ago, Jason said:

We still don’t know the extent of the injury but I feel confident he can be an everyday DH and he’s really freaking good at that. 

Fair enough but who knows when or even if he'll return to his 2023 form.