Now what? What moves would you like to see them make.

[totdprods]

On 11/28/2022 at 8:31 PM, totdprods said:

I think Angels are going to sign Carlos Estevez for the closer role, and relatively soon too.

And I think another arm is gonna sign soon aside from Estevez and Devenski. Jharel Cotton might be another good depth move.

Sweet

[Mark68]

Angels To Sign Carlos Estevez - MLB Trade Rumors

 

[Mark68]

The next move was this:

[BTH]

On 11/29/2022 at 6:55 AM, totdprods said:

Nope, just somewhere between a guess and a hunch. This is the ‘what move would you make next’ thread after all. Perry traditionally moves quick and bullpen is probably the next to address.

Good call.

[Warfarin]

7 hours ago, Trendon said:

Good call.

It's actually rather remarkable that he specifically listed Estevez a week prior as the next move, and that is indeed what it was.  Maybe he has actual sources but is just being modest  

[Angels 1961]

Today is Angel BIG SPLASH day

[Stradling]

12 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Today is Angel BIG SPLASH day

I kind of think so too. 

[Stradling]

Not a big move but I wouldn’t mind adding Chafin to our pen.  ERA under 3 for the past three years. Struck out 10 per 9, walk rate is consistent at 3 per 9. Last two years he has given up virtually no home runs. Solid WHIP. 

[ScruffytheJanitor]

15 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Not a big move but I wouldn’t mind adding Chafin to our pen.  ERA under 3 for the past three years. Struck out 10 per 9, walk rate is consistent at 3 per 9. Last two years he has given up virtually no home runs. Solid WHIP. 

I also like Jharel Cotton and Michael Fullmer as guys who could very well be ready for a consistent setup role. 

[totdprods]

2 hours ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

I also like Jharel Cotton and Michael Fullmer as guys who could very well be ready for a consistent setup role. 

Jharel Cotton also made a lot of appearances on Bill Hezel’s Twitter this last year, so I have a hunch he’s someone the Angels are checking in on. Dillon Tate also had a ton of activity on Hezel’s tweets, as much as Sandoval, Cobb, and Ohtani almost, and could be shopped by Baltimore. 

I like Chafin as an option too. Will Smith seems like he’d maybe be on the radar also, if the Angel want to simply want to add a high volume of vet relievers with closer experience and go by committee or play 9th inning match-ups. 

If the White Sox are wanting to shed some money, matching up with them for Hendrix and/or Anderson does make sense. Have to think Rengifo could be of interest to Chicago and could be a cost-effective infield option for them, and Anderson could be a stopgap for guys like Neto to emerge.

I really like Arraez, even if he is more of a 2B with defensive limitations. The offensive profile fits our needs really well. It’d take quite a few things dominoing for that to make sense though (such as signing a pitcher and sending a pitcher to Minnesota)…one loco scenario? Angels sign Swanson, trade Suarez + Adell + idk Canning/Daniel for Arraez, then ship out Rengifo for a controllable RHP SP to replace Suarez. Only add Swanson’s money in that scenario, and lock-up 2B and SS for the near-future.

Sick Lineup: Arraez 2B, Trout CF, Ohtani DH, Rendon 3B, Ward LF, Renfroe RF, Walsh 1B, Stassi C, Swanson SS

Bench: Back-up C, Urshela, Fletcher, Soto/Velazquez, Moniak

Rotation: Ohtani, Anderson, Sandoval, trade from Rengifo, Detmers, #6 (Silseth, Canning, etc.)

Edited December 6, 2022 by totdprods

[ScruffytheJanitor]

2 hours ago, totdprods said:

I really like Arraez, even if he is more of a 2B with defensive limitations. The offensive profile fits our needs really well. It’d take quite a few things dominoing for that to make sense though (such as signing a pitcher and sending a pitcher to Minnesota)…one loco scenario? Angels sign Swanson, trade Suarez + Adell + idk Canning/Daniel for Arraez, then ship out Rengifo for a controllable RHP SP to replace Suarez. Only add Swanson’s money in that scenario, and lock-up 2B and SS for the near-future.

Sick Lineup: Arraez 2B, Trout CF, Ohtani DH, Rendon 3B, Ward LF, Renfroe RF, Walsh 1B, Stassi C, Swanson SS

Bench: Back-up C, Urshela, Fletcher, Soto/Velazquez, Moniak

Rotation: Ohtani, Anderson, Sandoval, trade from Rengifo, Detmers, #6 (Silseth, Canning, etc.)

If we really are into Senga, that would reduce our need to replace Suarez  too. 

[totdprods]

5 minutes ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

If we really are into Senga, that would reduce our need to replace Suarez  too. 

Sign Senga, trade Suarez + Rengifo for Rogers or Hoerner? Rosario? Arraez?

Could push budget and really go win now and try to land Anderson and Hendrix for those two in what would amount to a salary dump for the Sox and a huge gamble for the Angels, but shoot, adding Renfroe, Urshela, Estevez, Tyler Anderson, Tim Anderson, Kodai Senga, and Liam Hendrix while only losing Suarez and Rengifo from the big league club would be nuts. Almost all of that is expiring money too. That would be an incredible club to roll into 2023, even if it jeopardizes 2024 a bit. Also let’s then be big players at deadline to sell (or buy without losing major prospects).

Edited December 6, 2022 by totdprods

[Mark68]

On 12/6/2022 at 8:52 AM, totdprods said:

Jharel Cotton also made a lot of appearances on Bill Hezel’s Twitter this last year, so I have a hunch he’s someone the Angels are checking in on. Dillon Tate also had a ton of activity on Hezel’s tweets, as much as Sandoval, Cobb, and Ohtani almost, and could be shopped by Baltimore. 

I like Chafin as an option too. Will Smith seems like he’d maybe be on the radar also, if the Angel want to simply want to add a high volume of vet relievers with closer experience and go by committee or play 9th inning match-ups. 

If the White Sox are wanting to shed some money, matching up with them for Hendrix and/or Anderson does make sense. Have to think Rengifo could be of interest to Chicago and could be a cost-effective infield option for them, and Anderson could be a stopgap for guys like Neto to emerge.

I really like Arraez, even if he is more of a 2B with defensive limitations. The offensive profile fits our needs really well. It’d take quite a few things dominoing for that to make sense though (such as signing a pitcher and sending a pitcher to Minnesota)…one loco scenario? Angels sign Swanson, trade Suarez + Adell + idk Canning/Daniel for Arraez, then ship out Rengifo for a controllable RHP SP to replace Suarez. Only add Swanson’s money in that scenario, and lock-up 2B and SS for the near-future.

Sick Lineup: Arraez 2B, Trout CF, Ohtani DH, Rendon 3B, Ward LF, Renfroe RF, Walsh 1B, Stassi C, Swanson SS

Bench: Back-up C, Urshela, Fletcher, Soto/Velazquez, Moniak

Rotation: Ohtani, Anderson, Sandoval, trade from Rengifo, Detmers, #6 (Silseth, Canning, etc.)

Yeah, I like Arraez too. He's the kind of hitter the Angels need at the top of the lineup. Would I like the cost? Probably not, but it's worth a discussion with the Twins. 

[Jason]

Kind of feels like the Angels are pretty much done 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Kind of feels like the Angels are pretty much done 

Because you’re ignoring what Minasian said?  

[Jason]

10 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Because you’re ignoring what Minasian said?  

No but it feels like the rest of the moves will be minor. If it’s for good depth then I’m still OK with that 

[T.G.]

It's Dec. 7

[Angels 1961]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

No but it feels like the rest of the moves will be minor. If it’s for good depth then I’m still OK with that 

It was disappointing nothing else done at winter meetings but off season not done. 

[Stradling]

I’d be surprised if we don’t see one more significant addition. 

[Angels 1961]

I have no idea who Minasian talked to about trades. I also have no idea if halos will go after top 3 SS left. I do wonder if at some point does he go after Andrus or Segura.

[Stradling]

Segura lengthens the line up, but he’s not great defensively.  

[BTH]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Segura lengthens the line up, but he’s not great defensively.  

17 DRS and 29 OAA at 2B in his career, -1 DRS and 4 OAA last season.

His metrics are better than Rengifo.

[Pancake Bear]

8 minutes ago, Trendon said:

17 DRS and 29 OAA at 2B in his career, -1 DRS and 4 OAA last season.

His metrics are better than Rengifo.

He's also 33, so his career numbers aren't exactly relevant to a guy who is trending the wrong way. 

[Docwaukee]

It really feels like Perry was kinda waiting out a couple teams that were intent on chucking $300 mil at someone.  Pads in particular.  

I'd like to see someone take Swanson off the board.  

I think the Giants and Twins will each get a big name.   One will get Correa and one will get Swanson I think.  

My guess is that he's still got some very specific targets but none that he's so married to that he'll engage in a big time bidding war.  

[Cosmo_Kramer]

Swanson and Lugo