Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Nice argument.

there's nothing to argue.  You're just not correct.  

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

From someone who has it…yes. It has very little effect while hitting. It flares up after extended periods of throwing. The feeling doesn’t linger. The blood flow returns. The biggest issue with it is the dead arm and It makes you feel like your arm weighs a ton. After about 5 minutes it’s just tingling in your shoulder and your fingers. The effect isn’t enough to prevent you from gripping a bat. 
 

I have it bad enough to be scheduled for surgery for it. It was delayed by the birth of my first kid. 2 months of PT and you’re good to go. 

Was yours arterial, venous, or neurogenic (most common), -- what's Walsh's?  Reading up on the issue years ago it seems there are varying symptoms/complications based on the type of TOS. 

During your battle with TOS, how often did you try to bat off MLB pitching?? How many hours did you spend taking BP, did the BP or any of the other baseball activities become more difficult at all or aggravate the condition any?  Was it Walsh's left or right shoulder?  Would lifting his arm to catch the ball or using the other arm to throw it be an issue at all. 

Do you really think your experience with TOS could be considered comparable to that of a professional athlete?

[jsnpritchett]

Of MLB Trade Rumors' top 50 free agents, here are the ones who remain unsigned:

23. Nathan Eovaldi

24. Taylor Rogers

25. J.D. Martinez

33. Jurickson Profar

37. Brandon Drury

39. Andrew Chafin

40. Jean Segura

41. Michael Wacha

43. Michael Brantley

44. Michael Conforto

45. Adam Ottavino

47. Justin Turner

48. Corey Kluber

50. Drew Rucinski

 

 

[Angelsfan1984]

11 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Was yours arterial, venous, or neurogenic (most common), -- what's Walsh's?  Reading up on the issue years ago it seems there are varying symptoms/complications based on the type of TOS. 

During your battle with TOS, how often did you try to bat off MLB pitching?? How many hours did you spend taking BP, did the BP or any of the other baseball activities become more difficult at all or aggravate the condition any?  Was it Walsh's left or right shoulder?  Would lifting his arm to catch the ball or using the other arm to throw it be an issue at all. 

Do you really think your experience with TOS could be considered comparable to that of a professional athletes?

Mine is neurogenic. 
 

clearly I am not a professional athlete with that type of regimen. I don’t know the details of his and I would have a hard time thinking it’s his non throwing shoulder. The issue compounds itself while throwing. Overhand motion and the buildup of the pectoral muscle will definitely cause flare ups. 
 

no, extending to catch the ball would not be effected. 
 

other than the tingling in the fingers, the act of swinging a bat is predominantly done with the legs, hips and core. The opening where TOS is located moves very little other than the extension when bringing the arms through. If people want to give his shitty season an out that’s on them. I don’t buy it.

[Revad]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

When we find out how much he got we will be fine not signing him for that amount.

I agree.

[Angelsfan1984]

13 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

there's nothing to argue.  You're just not correct.  

You can tell that to my surgeon and PT who works with several major league athletes. I’m sure they will just take your word for it.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

You can tell that to my surgeon and PT who works with several major league athletes. I’m sure they will just take your word for it.

Take the word of another doctor? They probably will. 

[tdawg87]

We all doctors here 

[Taylor]

3 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

You can tell that to my surgeon and PT who works with several major league athletes. I’m sure they will just take your word for it.

But does your surgeon/PT play Xbox with Scott Kazmir?

[Angelsfan1984]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Take the word of another doctor? They probably will. 

There’s a reason that there are doctors who specialize in various parts of the body and diseases. But I’m sure doc is an expert in everything. 

[Angels 1961]

9 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Of MLB Trade Rumors' top 50 free agents, here are the ones who remain unsigned:

23. Nathan Eovaldi

24. Taylor Rogers

25. J.D. Martinez

33. Jurickson Profar

37. Brandon Drury

39. Andrew Chafin

40. Jean Segura

41. Michael Wacha

43. Michael Brantley

44. Michael Conforto

45. Adam Ottavino

47. Justin Turner

48. Corey Kluber

50. Drew Rucinski

 

 

Surprised Rucinski still there

[Angelsfan1984]

Just now, Taylor said:

But does your surgeon/PT play Xbox with Scott Kazmir?

No, he is Scott Kazmir. 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

There’s a reason that there are doctors who specialize in various parts of the body and diseases. But I’m sure doc is an expert in everything. 

And I’m sure Doc’s opinion on this holds more value to other doctors than your personal experience. 

[Angelsfan1984]

Just now, Stradling said:

And I’m sure Doc’s opinion on this holds more value to other doctors than your personal experience. 

Ok

[Angels 1961]

This was Cubs second largest FA contract. Jason Heyward now with Dodgers

[Angelsfan1984]

30 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

there's nothing to argue.  You're just not correct.  

What is your medical specialty in? Are you general practice? 
 

Please explain to me how he managed to make an all star team in 2021 with the same issue? TOC doesn’t just appear out of nowhere. He’s likely had it since his early teens. 
 

my guess is that he stopped pitching because of it and managed the discomfort through various workouts. 

[Taylor]

10 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

What is your medical specialty in? Are you general practice? 

He's the Doctor of Soul and Sabermetrics.

[cgoldangel]

Regarding Walsh and the TOS, I work as a PT and anytime you are dealing with neurological symptoms, those symptoms are always different with each person. If the symptoms get bad enough it would absolutely be an issue swinging a bat. We just don’t know how bad the symptoms were for Walsh. It is all speculation on our parts and I am willing to take his word on it.

[Erstad Grit]

1 hour ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

the fact that the braves didn't even try to re-sign Swanson should tell you all you need.

now, perry wake up and improve the BP!

Agreed.  But the twins desperately trying to sign correa said something too

[Inside Pitch]

13 minutes ago, Taylor said:

He's the Doctor of Soul and Sabermetrics.

Not a bad combo IMO.

[Angels 1961]

5 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Agreed.  But the twins desperately trying to sign correa said something too

Angels not trying to sign any players to long term over 175 mill says something also

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Angels not trying to sign any players to long term over 175 mill says something also

McCourt putting in a bid for the Halos?

[UndertheHalo]

To me, Brandon Drury is maybe their best option left in free agency.  If they can get him on a 2 or 3 year deal they’ll figure out a way to make him fit in the line up.  They can stick him at 2nd if things are fine with Rendon and Walsh.  Things probably won’t be fine with both of them.  He’s a reasonable major league bat.  Lack of these remains the Angels biggest immediate problem. 

Edited December 17, 2022 by UndertheHalo

[Revad]

There was speculation early in the off-season that the Angels might make a big signing or otherwise fully commit to winning this year in hopes of getting Ohtani to stay.  Off course all this with the team for sale and no info on salary spending limits.  Minasian hasn’t gone crazy FA dollar wise and may make another signing.

But I’m interested to see what more he’s willing to do by trade.  

 

[mmc]