Nationals open to moving Juan Soto after he rejects $440 million extension

[Inside Pitch]

30 minutes ago, Ender said:

That's a lot of money he turned down, but he probably just wants to get out of there after the team burned it all down and likely won't be competitive for a long time. 

Their team is terrible and their farm is terrible.

That said it would take a FUCKING haul to obtain him in a trade. 

The Rangers could probably both afford to pay him and trade for him.  That system has a TON of mid tier prospects plus Letier Jr.  Not sure if the Rangers would be interested, but after their investments in Semien and Saeger you'd think they are looking to open/establish a window.

[Inside Pitch]

Mariners are another team that should at least consider it.  They could send Kelenic and Lews plus one of their arms still in the minors or Brash and then throw in filler.  Not sure they are willing to spend that much on one player, but they too are entering a window and an OF with Soto and Rodriguez would be pretty dynamic.

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Mariners are another team that should at least consider it.  They could send Kelenic and Lews plus one of their arms still in the minors or Brash and then throw in filler.  Not sure they are willing to spend that much on one player, but they too are entering a window and an OF with Soto and Rodriguez would be pretty dynamic.

That sounds good.

[m0nkey]

Volpe, peraza, wells, Cabrera, Dominguez and more, welcome to the nationals organization. 

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, ettin said:

The Angels should certainly inquire, but we would have to empty part of our Major League roster and our farm to even have a chance.

Names like Adell, Sandoval, Detmers, Marsh, Paris, Bachman, Guzman, et al. would all have to be in the conversation and even then I think we fall woefully short in the quality over quantity conversation.

That kind of trade never makes any sense, emptying your org for one player.

Not just the Marlins, also ask the Vikings (Herschel Walker trade) how that worked for them.

Arte Moreno has to know that if he doesn’t do everything to keep Ohtani, then no other moves will calm Halos fans.

[UndertheHalo]

7 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

That kind of trade never makes any sense, emptying your org for one player.

Not just the Marlins, also ask the Vikings (Herschel Walker trade) how that worked for them.

Arte Moreno has to know that if he doesn’t do everything to keep Ohtani, then no other moves will calm Halos fans.

I don’t think Arte gives a shit about Angels fan wants or dis wants.  I do think he very much likes what Ohtani brings to the table.  Money wise. 

Edited July 16, 2022 by UndertheHalo

[TempeAngel]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

He’s about the best bet to live up to a big contract because of his age.
Oh and I’d give Soto $400 million before I give that same $400 million to Ohtani. 

Stupid

[Angels 1961]

14 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

That kind of trade never makes any sense, emptying your org for one player.

Not just the Marlins, also ask the Vikings (Herschel Walker trade) how that worked for them.

Arte Moreno has to know that if he doesn’t do everything to keep Ohtani, then no other moves will calm Halos fans.

Ask the Rams about the Ollie Matson trade

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, TempeAngel said:

Stupid

Why?  One guy is 23, the other is 28.  That’s FIVE prime years more. 

[Angels 1961]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Why?  One guy is 23, the other is 28.  That’s FIVE prime years more. 

Ohtani is 2 players in 1. I give neither one that much

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

Ohtani is 2 players in 1. I give neither one that much

And if he can’t pitch or as he ages then he’s worth significantly less than Soto. 

[ukyah]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

He’s about the best bet to live up to a big contract because of his age.
Oh and I’d give Soto $400 million before I give that same $400 million to Ohtani. 

now THAT is a hot take. no joke.

you predicate that opinion out of a belief that ohtani is likely to breakdown in one or both aspects of his game, thus reducing his value?

[TempeAngel]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

And if he can’t pitch or as he ages then he’s worth significantly less than Soto. 

You thought Rendon would age well. Joke.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

4 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I don't think we have anything they'd want, unless they really like Adell (which a lot of teams still do).

straight trade

[Stradling]

15 minutes ago, ukyah said:

now THAT is a hot take. no joke.

you predicate that opinion out of a belief that ohtani is likely to breakdown in one or both aspects of his game, thus reducing his value?

Oh it’s about age and how players perform into their mid 30’s. Also predicated on a longer deal for Soto based on his age.  But I totally understand people won’t agree with it. 

[Stradling]

14 minutes ago, TempeAngel said:

You thought Rendon would age well. Joke.

Did I?  Link?  

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

39 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

That kind of trade never makes any sense, emptying your org for one player.

Not just the Marlins, also ask the Vikings (Herschel Walker trade) how that worked for them.

Arte Moreno has to know that if he doesn’t do everything to keep Ohtani, then no other moves will calm Halos fans.

maybe if Herschel Walker trade had worked out he wouldn't run for the Senate

[AngelStew43]

No one thought we had a chance with Ohtani, either.

[Angel Oracle]

45 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Ask the Rams about the Ollie Matson trade

That was an exception to the rule.

The Chicago Cardinals were a joke franchise in the 1950s.   

[Jay]

Why would any player of Soto's caliber want to play in Anaheim, unless it's just about the money. Give me one reason.

And is that the kind of player you want, a guy who is just about the money?

 

[tdawg87]

29 minutes ago, AngelStew43 said:

No one thought we had a chance with Ohtani, either.

The situations are just a little different IMO.

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

And if he can’t pitch or as he ages then he’s worth significantly less than Soto. 

First, I do not sign anyone for 400. Most I give is maybe a 4-year deal. I would take four years of Ohtani over 4 years of Soto. I will be curious to see what Nationals get in a Soto trade. If I was Angel GM if not now maybe in winter gauge what an Ohtani trade might bring back. Some team looking for a big bat and ace pitcher get him on 1 year deal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[fan_since79]

Who in his right mind would turn down $440 million?

As if he's going to get more money somewhere else? Ridiculous.

[m0nkey]

2 hours ago, m0nkey said:

Volpe, peraza, wells, Cabrera, Dominguez and more, welcome to the nationals organization. 

After seconds long reconsideration, if he gets traded, it’ll be the dogs who trade for him