Angels considering moving Trout out of CF

[IheartLA]

The corner outfield spots should be open competition like SS. Adell hasn't shown he should be guaranteed anything and Upton is in a walk year, unless he's planning on retiring after this year he could come into '22 super motivated and put up those free agent year numbers.

I'm also higher on Ward than most. If we are in win now mode with Maddon in a contract year I think Ward is gonna put up better numbers than Marsh/Adell as long as he stays healthy.

Edited March 14, 2022 by IheartLA

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, IheartLA said:

He's only 30 I think he will be more open later on at 35,36. No way right now. 

Or he’s a team first guy. 

[IheartLA]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Or he’s a team first guy. 

Marsh hasn't proved he's an everyday player yet. Before Trout is moved we'd have to establish that Upton is done, Marsh is good, and that Trout's defense has deteriorated to the point it has to be addressed. Trout has heard his defense needed to improve for years and he worked hard and got his #s up. I don't think he'd give up and say he can't handle center, I think he'd work harder to try to improve rather than just move. 

I refer you to the Pujols sucks threads from 2017+ where everyone wanted Pujols replaced and it wasn't going to happen unless it was so clear cut you had to. Not Valbuena/Cron but Walsh. Trout would have to be so bad in CF like league worst level and Marsh would have to be proving he's a guaranteed starter prob more like borderline all star to facilitate the move. Otherwise if Marsh is struggling and needs to be sent down we have no CF again and Trout would play there again and he would probably not enjoy being shifted around every month.

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, IheartLA said:

Marsh hasn't proved he's an everyday player yet. Before Trout is moved we'd have to establish that Upton is done, Marsh is good, and that Trout's defense has deteriorated to the point it has to be addressed. Trout has heard his defense needed to improve for years and he worked hard and got his #s up. I don't think he'd give up and say he can't handle center, I think he'd work harder to try to improve rather than just move. 

I refer you to the Pujols sucks threads from 2017+ where everyone wanted Pujols replaced and it wasn't going to happen unless it was so clear cut you had to. Not Valbuena/Cron but Walsh. Trout would have to be so bad in CF like league worst level and Marsh would have to be proving he's a guaranteed starter prob more like borderline all star to facilitate the move. Otherwise if Marsh is struggling and needs to be sent down we have no CF again and Trout would play there again and he would probably not enjoy being shifted around every month.

Well obviously the Angels are considering it since they talked to Trout about it. Also this could be an indication that they are committed to Marsh playing everyday. It could also be posturing on the Angels part. 

[Angels 1961]

4 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

This topic is a good example of why getting another outfielder does make sense.  

Taylor Ward

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, IheartLA said:

The corner outfield spots should be open competition like SS. Adell hasn't shown he should be guaranteed anything and Upton is in a walk year, unless he's planning on retiring after this year he could come into '22 super motivated and put up those free agent year numbers.

I'm also higher on Ward than most. If we are in win now mode with Maddon in a contract year I think Ward is gonna put up better numbers than Marsh/Adell as long as he stays healthy.

I like Ward had decent numbers last year.

[UndertheHalo]

9 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Taylor Ward

And another 1 

[T.G.]

I'm outraged.

[UndertheHalo]

14 minutes ago, True Grich said:

What are we talking about?

I don’t know man.  Baseball or something.  The Angels.  Etc. 

[Make Angels Great Again]

This actually kind of saddens me that we've gotten to the point in Trout's career where the move out of his career position is being discussed. And we still haven't experienced some real team success. I hope that changes soon.

[Angels 1961]

If Trout makes last out in an inn and is playing LF instead of running into dugout can go sit in bullpen. It's much shorter distance. If a man plays CF when he is 20 but remains there when he is 30 he has no head.

[Revad]

2 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

This actually kind of saddens me that we've gotten to the point in Trout's career where the move out of his career position is being discussed. And we still haven't experienced some real team success. I hope that changes soon.

It is sad but even sadder that  the Angels aren’t trying their best to win.  

[DMVol]

6 minutes ago, Revad said:

It is sad but even sadder that  the Angels aren’t trying their best to win.  

I think Arte is trying....I just think his approach, during Trout's years, has been poor, at times downright inept---big contracts to aging and declining veterans, a perplexing withdrawal from the international market a decade ago (for which we are still paying a price) and mediocre drafting and development.....

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

trout found out on Twitter lol 

[T.G.]

18 minutes ago, Revad said:

It is sad but even sadder that  the Angels aren’t trying their best to win.  

It's sad that you're not even making an effort to post something based in actual truth.

[Revad]

50 minutes ago, True Grich said:

It's sad that you're not even making an effort to post something based in actual truth.

Perhaps your right but lowballing scouting and player development stands out to me.  Do you think Artie is more concerned with winning or profits?

[mmc]

First instance of Maddon saying something and then saying the opposite days later of the season

 

[bloodbrother]

Learned quickly last season to never listen to anything Maddon says regarding players

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, mmc said:

First instance of Maddon saying something and then saying the opposite days later of the season

 

And if definitely won't be the last.

[T.G.]

Maddon's wine bar is apparently up and running for the season.

[Dtwncbad]

What I get from all this (Trout/Maddon talking about him not playing CF and Trout being a team first guy) is Trout could be playing shortstop this year?

[happybat4]

Trout hasn't had a positive Dwar season since 2018. 

[IheartLA]

17 hours ago, Stradling said:

Well obviously the Angels are considering it since they talked to Trout about it. Also this could be an indication that they are committed to Marsh playing everyday. It could also be posturing on the Angels part. 

“I hadn’t really thought about it until it popped up,” Trout said. “I obviously love center field. I’ve got nine years left [on my contract] so I could see it down the road, moving to a corner. Corner outfield is less on your body. They’re trying to keep me out there for 162 games. But I want to play center field and we had a great conversation about it.” 

"I feel comfortable out there and natural,” Trout said. “I told them basically to tell me what to work on and I'll get better at it.

[Blarg]

Work on staying in the lineup. 

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, IheartLA said:

“I hadn’t really thought about it until it popped up,” Trout said. “I obviously love center field. I’ve got nine years left [on my contract] so I could see it down the road, moving to a corner. Corner outfield is less on your body. They’re trying to keep me out there for 162 games. But I want to play center field and we had a great conversation about it.” 

"I feel comfortable out there and natural,” Trout said. “I told them basically to tell me what to work on and I'll get better at it.

Yep, I made a wrong assumption based on what I read. My bad.