Ty Buttrey announced he intends to return to MLB

[Jason]

46 minutes ago, cals said:

MiLB doesn't put bible verses on players' hats, though.  So there is a difference. 

Maybe they are placed inside of the baseballs and nobody knows about it?

[Hubs]

3 hours ago, Lou said:

What does a AAA player make?

If he's on the 40-man roster, which is likely, since he's on the second contract, he'd make like $93k or maybe a bit more. (Prorated to days spent in AAA), He's likely to receive the major league minimum for every day he's in the majors too.

Some players make like 15k, but probably 10-12 of the 26 at AAA are on the 40-man, and going up and down.

Minor league free agents also make better money, but I don't see why the Angels would cut him loose. He's an asset. And while sitting out a year is a negative, it's not as if he had a disciplinary issue, so...

[eligrba]

How can a person live on only 93k? Outrageous living conditions.  MLB should do something. 

[Blarg]

Trout makes $93k putting on his cleats before the game. 

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, eligrba said:

How can a person live on only 93k? Outrageous living conditions.  MLB should do something. 

I don't think any of the dudes making 93K on the 40-man roster are the players complaining about living conditions, but you knew that.

[eligrba]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

I don't think any of the dudes making 93K on the 40-man roster are the players complaining about living conditions, but you knew that.

I did. I was bored and impulsive. The off season is painful. 

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, eligrba said:

I did. I was bored and impulsive. The off season is painful. 

I feel ya, bro.

[Hubs]

4 hours ago, eligrba said:

How can a person live on only 93k? Outrageous living conditions.  MLB should do something. 

Of the SLC Roster, only a handful of guys would make that. And it's mostly the guys that are called up and then sent back down. (People on the 40-man) And it's prorated to days spent in AAA.

Adell, Canning, Detmers, Thaiss, Rengifo, Bemboom, Mayfield, Ward, Jay, Wallach, Barria, Naughton, Peters, Schleber.

There might be a few more.

Guys on their first major league contract, like Marsh, Rojas, Ortega, Quijada, C-Rod, etc. make a minimum 46,000 in 2021, and will move to the more expensive group in 2022 if they're not in the majors.

Minor League Free Agents (who aren't on the 40, also could make more...but not much more).

Some guys though, make as little as 15k, or 700 per week for 5 months. This is probably guys who may have included Fletcher and Walsh in previous years, and maybe Stefanic, Walding, or Gatewood.

Lower levels is where the problem really is. It goes down to $400 per week, and seeing as they probably play games or work out every day as part of their job, they're easily putting in 12 hour days, 6 days a week. Plus travel. Minimum wage in Utah is $7.25, Alabama $7.25, Washington is $14.49, California is $15, and Arizona is $12.80 for 2022. So these guys work for less than minimum wage.

There's nothing wrong with paying these guys $15-20 an Hour across all levels, minimum, with overtime, and a housing allowance or housing provided by the team.

I'd imagine there are like 100-120 players in affiliated ball per season, and another 40-50 at the camp levels. (Not including foreign team academies). If you take out the 15-20 guys who are non-rostered major leaguers (40-man but not in Anaheim), you still have like 150 guys, playing 8 hours per day, working out another 2 and traveling up to 20 hours per week. Say that's 90 hours for 7 months including Spring Training, which would be 2520 hours.. 25% more than a full time job over 12 months. At $15 per hour it's almost $40k, and at $20 it's just over $50k. Not including overtime, which would push it to the equivalent of $50-72k.

At 150 guys, that's $9 million, which is a significant amount of money, but peanuts if you think about how much money major league baseball makes, and considering they paid Jose Quintana that much... 

 

[eligrba]

6 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Of the SLC Roster, only a handful of guys would make that. And it's mostly the guys that are called up and then sent back down. (People on the 40-man) And it's prorated to days spent in AAA.

Adell, Canning, Detmers, Thaiss, Rengifo, Bemboom, Mayfield, Ward, Jay, Wallach, Barria, Naughton, Peters, Schleber.

There might be a few more.

Guys on their first major league contract, like Marsh, Rojas, Ortega, Quijada, C-Rod, etc. make a minimum 46,000 in 2021, and will move to the more expensive group in 2022 if they're not in the majors.

Minor League Free Agents (who aren't on the 40, also could make more...but not much more).

Some guys though, make as little as 15k, or 700 per week for 5 months. This is probably guys who may have included Fletcher and Walsh in previous years, and maybe Stefanic, Walding, or Gatewood.

Lower levels is where the problem really is. It goes down to $400 per week, and seeing as they probably play games or work out every day as part of their job, they're easily putting in 12 hour days, 6 days a week. Plus travel. Minimum wage in Utah is $7.25, Alabama $7.25, Washington is $14.49, California is $15, and Arizona is $12.80 for 2022. So these guys work for less than minimum wage.

There's nothing wrong with paying these guys $15-20 an Hour across all levels, minimum, with overtime, and a housing allowance or housing provided by the team.

I'd imagine there are like 100-120 players in affiliated ball per season, and another 40-50 at the camp levels. (Not including foreign team academies). If you take out the 15-20 guys who are non-rostered major leaguers (40-man but not in Anaheim), you still have like 150 guys, playing 8 hours per day, working out another 2 and traveling up to 20 hours per week. Say that's 90 hours for 7 months including Spring Training, which would be 2520 hours.. 25% more than a full time job over 12 months. At $15 per hour it's almost $40k, and at $20 it's just over $50k. Not including overtime, which would push it to the equivalent of $50-72k.

At 150 guys, that's $9 million, which is a significant amount of money, but peanuts if you think about how much money major league baseball makes, and considering they paid Jose Quintana that much... 

 

I don't understand how a multi-billion dollar industry can't pay players at all levels an appropriate wage.  Al kidding aside, it is a job and they should be compensated appropriately.

[Blarg]

That is why paying a player $30 million a year makes absolutely no sense at all. The wage disparity between players is the biggest problem that MLB won't address with both a higher wage floor at all levels and a serious individual wage and term cap. 

Every facet of the game has to turn down the greed level. From agents to the players union to the commissioner's office. It's like pirates arguing over stolen goods. 

[tdawg87]

29 minutes ago, Blarg said:

That is why paying a player $30 million a year makes absolutely no sense at all. The wage disparity between players is the biggest problem that MLB won't address with both a higher wage floor at all levels and a serious individual wage and term cap. 

Every facet of the game has to turn down the greed level. From agents to the players union to the commissioner's office. It's like pirates arguing over stolen goods. 

You're sounding an awful lot like a Commie.

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

That is why paying a player $30 million a year makes absolutely no sense at all. The wage disparity between players is the biggest problem that MLB won't address with both a higher wage floor at all levels and a serious individual wage and term cap. 

Every facet of the game has to turn down the greed level. From agents to the players union to the commissioner's office. It's like pirates arguing over stolen goods. 

Blargie Sanders

[Lou]

4 hours ago, Taylor said:

I don't think any of the dudes making 93K on the 40-man roster are the players complaining about living conditions, but you knew that.

They also aren't helping out those poor souls that are struggling in the low minors. 

Selfish bastards. 

[RallyMo]

If he's good, let him pitch. If he's not, let him sit. This is pretty simple.

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

If he's good, let him pitch. If he's not, let him sit. This is pretty simple.

You would think so, but not everyone was fortunate enough to attend a UC school.

[RallyMo]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

You would think so, but not everyone was fortunate enough to attend a UC school.

This is true. Some people are just dummies and there's not much we can do for them.

[Lou]

Just now, RallyMo said:

This is true. Some people are just dummies and there's not much we can do for them.

It makes me sad.

 

 

 

 

 

 

haha  Not really

[Mark68]

5 hours ago, cals said:

I did!

I did too!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*University of Colorado

 

 

**Denver

 

 

Go Lynx!

[Mark68]

On 1/10/2022 at 6:39 PM, Lazorko Saves said:

Buttrey does know that there's a lockout that will last forever and there will never be baseball again, right?

Yes. That's why he "un-retired".

[Taylor]

20 hours ago, Lou said:

They also aren't helping out those poor souls that are struggling in the low minors. 

Selfish bastards. 

Right, but just about 1/1,000th as selfish as the owners.

[Inside Pitch]

22 hours ago, Blarg said:

That is why paying a player $30 million a year makes absolutely no sense at all. The wage disparity between players is the biggest problem that MLB won't address with both a higher wage floor at all levels and a serious individual wage and term cap. 

Every facet of the game has to turn down the greed level. From agents to the players union to the commissioner's office. It's like pirates arguing over stolen goods. 

At least they got those chef catered meals...  Otherwise they might end up eating hot pockets in the clubhouse.

[m0nkey]

““$93k?? He’s basically a 1%er!!”

-AJ

-Cals”

[Taylor]

15 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

““$93k?? He’s basically a 1%er!!”

-AJ

-Cals”

93K is barely above poverty level in OC.

[Lou]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

Right, but just about 1/1,000th as selfish as the owners.

The players are those who complain about needing help. 

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, cals said:

True, people should stop being so poor.

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On 12/14/2021 at 9:35 AM, Lou said:

"Oh, is there anything more annoying than the poor? Always complaining: “Aw, I can’t afford a two-bedroom townhouse for six hundred thousand dollars.” Good, move east. Yeah, that’s what the middle of the country’s for. People that gave up on their dreams."

 

- Daniel Tosh