Angels tender Raisel Iglesias the QO (Iglesias rejects)

[HanfordGuy]

1 hour ago, DCAngelsFan said:

Eating at Taco Bell is scary enough - but to use one of their bathrooms?  

 

[HanfordGuy]

@Jeff Fletcher Does it matter that the QO is made to a reliever and would make him the highest paid closer at $18.4mm for 2022? I know very few take the QO but Iglesias is not a starting pitcher or position player. Does not getting a true open market deal dissuade players from resigning with their ballclubs?

[Tank]

46 minutes ago, HanfordGuy said:

I thought all contract negotiations were done at the Del Taco on State College Blvd. Is this Perry’s way of crushing the “secret cabal’s” hold on the team?

FTR, it's the del taco in corona.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, HanfordGuy said:

I thought all contract negotiations were done at the Del Taco on State College Blvd. Is this Perry’s way of crushing the “secret cabal’s” hold on the team?

sometimes plans need to be changed.

i really can't say anything more than that . . . for now.

[Jeff Fletcher]

26 minutes ago, HanfordGuy said:

@Jeff Fletcher Does it matter that the QO is made to a reliever and would make him the highest paid closer at $18.4mm for 2022? I know very few take the QO but Iglesias is not a starting pitcher or position player. Does not getting a true open market deal dissuade players from resigning with their ballclubs?

Does it matter to who? I am not sure I understand your question. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

4 hours ago, DCAngelsFan said:

This is a little far-fetched, but I always wondered why he wasn't traded at the deadline - and the only reasons that made sense were that no one offered anything useful for him - that seems pretty unlikely - what a huge add for a stretch/playoff run - or there was a kind of "gentleman's agreement" that both sides were committed to signing him - and that would seem to require some kind of deal framework.  

Neither reason seems very likely - yet ... 

So wondering if you'd caught wind of any explanation for why he wasn't moved?

IMO, he may not fit financially - which would be a shame, he seems to really want to be here.   

The only explanation I got was that they didn’t want to give up entirely at that time. If there’s more to it (which seems likely) no one has admitted it to me. 

[HanfordGuy]

17 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Does it matter to who? I am not sure I understand your question. 

To Iglesias. 

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

Heaney was traded away at the deadline. 

That's more like spring cleaning than fire sale.

[eligrba]

25 minutes ago, Taylor said:

That's more like spring cleaning than fire sale.

More like a trip to Goodwill.

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, HanfordGuy said:

To Iglesias. 

I don’t think the fact that he’d be the highest paid reliever for one year means as much as getting $45-50M over 3-4 years. 
 

if he slips at all in 2022 and goes back onto the FA market as a 33 year old, he’s not getting that money back. 

[beatlesrule]

1 hour ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

The only explanation I got was that they didn’t want to give up entirely at that time. If there’s more to it (which seems likely) no one has admitted it to me. 

Yup. Arte is delusional as usual.

[AngelsLakersFan]

8 hours ago, Blarg said:

Heaney was traded away at the deadline. 

And our dreams of the post season were crushed?

[HanfordGuy]

2 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

And our dreams of the post season were crushed?

Heaney’s 2 losses also cost the Yankees home field for the wild card.

[eligrba]

8 hours ago, HanfordGuy said:

Heaney’s 2 losses also cost the Yankees home field for the wild card.

[Revad]

Deadline for decisions on QO is 5pm eastern today.

[totdprods]

Have a feeling if we keep Iglesias, it’s gonna be a multi-year deal signed today.

[Stradling]

If Raisel accepts the QO then the Angels have already committed $40 million on two players for 2022. 

[Stradling]

Also it’s November 17th 

[tdawg87]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

If Raisel accepts the QO then the Angels have already committed $40 million on two players for 2022. 

This is either a good indicator or a bad one.

Guess we'll see.

[totdprods]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

If Raisel accepts the QO then the Angels have already committed $40 million on two players for 2022. 

Pretty terrifying, or exciting?

[Stradling]

Just now, totdprods said:

Pretty terrifying, or exciting?

I think the only answer is yes. If Arte came out and said “this is a unique year and I anticipate us going over the threshold” then exciting.  However, until the rest of the plan unfolds it’s nervous time.  

[totdprods]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I think the only answer is yes. If Arte came out and said “this is a unique year and I anticipate us going over the threshold” then exciting.  However, until the rest of the plan unfolds it’s nervous time.  

I can't recall if it was posted here yesterday, and I believe it was Jim Bowden, but he think I saw some tweets of him on a show or podcast and he was stating the sentiment was that the Angels were going all-in. Spending big, trading big, Scherzer, Castillo, anyone, everyone.

It kind of makes sense. You have Ohtani for two years, maybe the last two theoretical years of peak Rendon and Trout, the AL West is maybe the most up-for-grabs it's been in a half a decade. 
It might absolutely scorch the future but they could go for it for two or three years.

[Angels 1961]

30 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Have a feeling if we keep Iglesias, it’s gonna be a multi-year deal signed today.

That would be huge plus

[Angels 1961]

Sign Iglesias, Cobb and Rich Hill and Graveman.

[GoodTimesGoneBad]

I hope he takes the QO. Let’s say he is on the verge of 4/48, even if he slips a bit he’ll probably still get at least 3/30 which would put him at even money. If he does well next year he won’t be tied to a pick and could really clean up.