Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[halonatic13]

No to Gray!!!  This years away splits are terrible!

 

Split	W	L	W-L%	ERA	G	GS	GF	CG	SHO	SV	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	BK	WP	BF	WHIP	SO9	SO/W
Home	5	5	.500	4.02	14	14	0	0	0	0	78.1	59	38	35	12	31	2	80	5	0	3	327	1.149	9.2	2.58
Away	3	7	.300	5.22	15	15	0	0	0	0	70.2	81	45	41	9	27	0	77	3	0	4	317	1.528	9.8	2.85

Edited November 29, 2021 by halonatic13

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Not at all. Texas has lower taxes and a ton more freedom. Cost of living is a fraction of CA do your dollar goes further, and there's a lot more open space. 

As much as I love CA, I don't blame anyone for choosing another state. 

 

So you will understand no free agents signing here or anywhere in Ca?

[totdprods]

Those multi-millionaires really hurting without their freedom in CA 

Edited November 29, 2021 by totdprods

[Angels 1961]

6 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

If it ends up being Syndergaard and Gray then they’ve once again failed to properly address their need for pitching and we can start looking ahead to next years FA class

Let it play out. Gray and Ray would be nice.

[AngelStew43]

I respectfully disagree.  One of ownerships goals has to be to keep Trout and Ohtani happy to be playing here.  

20 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

If the Mets are offering him $40M per for 3-4 years, it doesn't matter what Trout wants

 

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

The property tax in Texas is 3x that of CA. You actually pay more in taxes annually if you own a home than you pay in state taxes here. 
 

the state gets you somewhere they just like to push the agenda that you don’t pay state income tax lol. It’s bs

To you and me maybe but not to a player making millions. 

[Angelsfan1984]

1 minute ago, greginpsca said:

Me too.  But as Ettin mentioned the money, there is no state tax in Texas, and homes are much cheaper than here.

See my previous comment about the taxes. I have family who lives in Texas. They have a crumbling power grid and property taxes are 3x that of CA. Don’t believe the hype about no state income tax. Public entities (which I work with daily) always get their money. It’s all disguised. 

[Second Base]

I think the Angels will get three starting pitchers. We are all focusing on SP#2 right now, but in order to fit it in the budget, I'm thinking we may need to set our sights lower (sound familiar?).

As of right now, I think they'll get Stroman for 5/110, trade Marsh, Jackson and Barria for Luis Castillo and top it off with a Raisel Iglesias re-up in the neighborhood of 4/40. 

Thaiss is the backup C, Rengifo, Wade and Mayfield battle it out at SS. 

Rotation is Syndergaard, Stroman, Castillo, Ohtani, Sandoval and Suarez. 

The late innings line up with Loup in the 8th, Iglesias in the ninth. 

[Angelsfan1984]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

To you and me maybe but not to a player making millions. 

True. Still important to remember the state tax only applies to those 81 home games. The rest applies to each city you play in.

[halonatic13]

Gosh, I just want Max.  These #'s are games started is just too good to pass up.  Even at 37.

009	24	ARI	NL	9	11	.450	4.12	30	30	0	0	0	0	170.1	166	94	78	20	63	1	174	10	1	5	741	108	3.87	1.344	8.8	1.1	3.3	9.2	2.76
2010	25	DET	AL	12	11	.522	3.50	31	31	0	0	0	0	195.2	174	84	76	20	70	1	184	7	0	8	800	120	3.71	1.247	8.0	0.9	3.2	8.5	2.63
2011	26	DET	AL	15	9	.625	4.43	33	33	0	0	0	0	195.0	207	101	96	29	56	1	174	7	0	12	833	93	4.14	1.349	9.6	1.3	2.6	8.0	3.11
2012	27	DET	AL	16	7	.696	3.74	32	32	0	0	0	0	187.2	179	82	78	23	60	2	231	5	1	2	787	114	3.27	1.274	8.6	1.1	2.9	11.1	3.85
2013	28	DET	AL	21	3	.875	2.90	32	32	0	0	0	0	214.1	152	73	69	18	56	0	240	4	1	6	836	144	2.74	0.970	6.4	0.8	2.4	10.1	4.29	AS,CYA-1,MVP-12
2014	29	DET	AL	18	5	.783	3.15	33	33	0	1	1	0	220.1	196	80	77	18	63	1	252	6	1	10	904	123	2.85	1.175	8.0	0.7	2.6	10.3	4.00	AS,CYA-5
2015	30	WSN	NL	14	12	.538	2.79	33	33	0	4	3	0	228.2	176	74	71	27	34	2	276	5	1	10	899	142	2.77	0.918	6.9	1.1	1.3	10.9	8.12	AS,CYA-5
2016	31	WSN	NL	20	7	.741	2.96	34	34	0	1	0	0	228.1	165	77	75	31	56	2	284	6	1	2	902	144	3.24	0.968	6.5	1.2	2.2	11.2	5.07	AS,CYA-1,MVP-10
2017	32	WSN	NL	16	6	.727	2.51	31	31	0	2	0	0	200.2	126	62	56	22	55	2	268	11	0	4	780	178	2.90	0.902	5.7	1.0	2.5	12.0	4.87	AS,CYA-1,MVP-10
2018	33	WSN	NL	18	7	.720	2.53	33	33	0	2	1	0	220.2	150	66	62	23	51	4	300	12	1	4	866	168	2.65	0.911	6.1	0.9	2.1	12.2	5.88	AS,CYA-2,MVP-10
2019	34	WSN	NL	11	7	.611	2.92	27	27	0	0	0	0	172.1	144	59	56	18	33	2	243	7	0	0	693	154	2.45	1.027	7.5	0.9	1.7	12.7	7.36	AS,CYA-3,MVP-22
2020	35	WSN	NL	5	4	.556	3.74	12	12	0	1	0	0	67.1	70	30	28	10	23	1	92	1	0	6	295	119	3.46	1.381	9.4	1.3	3.1	12.3	4.00
2021	36	TOT	NL	15	4	.789	2.46	30	30	0	1	0	0	179.1	119	53	49	23	36	0	236	10	0	2	693	166	2.97	0.864	6.0	1.2	1.8	11.8	6.56	AS,CYA-3,MVP-14
2021	36	WSN	NL	8	4	.667	2.76	19	19	0	1	0	0	111.0	71	36	34	18	28	0	147	8	0	0	428	147	3.60	0.892	5.8	1.5	2.3	11.9	5.25
2021	36	LAD	NL	7	0	1.000	1.98	11	11	0	0	0	0	68.1	48	17	15	5	8	0	89	2	0	2	265	208	1.96	0.820	6.3	0.7	1.1	11.7	11.13

[Angel Oracle]

10 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Not at all. Texas has lower taxes and a ton more freedom. Cost of living is a fraction of CA do your dollar goes further, and there's a lot more open space. 

As much as I love CA, I don't blame anyone for choosing another state. 

 

The politicians have messed up this state for years.

[Second Base]

6 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

The property tax in Texas is 3x that of CA. You actually pay more in taxes annually if you own a home than you pay in state taxes here. 
 

the state gets you somewhere they just like to push the agenda that you don’t pay state income tax lol. It’s bs

Still, cost of living, more land and a ton more freedom. Having been all over, So-Cal is locking things down tighter than everyone except NY and Massachusetts. 

[mmc]

 

[bloodbrother]

Just now, mmc said:

 

They can have him

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

True. Still important to remember the state tax only applies to those 81 home games. The rest applies to each city you play in.

So if you're on the Rangers and you play the Angels and Oakland 19 times, plus occasional trips to the NL West, it's still a big chunk of games in CA. Obviously not 81, but ~20. 

[bloodbrother]

Jon Gray to Rangers

 

[Angel Oracle]

Mets are desperate.

When Arte gets desperate, Baez for 5 years/$125 million incoming.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Offer the same, plus free parking at the stadium. (Thats a several thousand dollar value)

[mmc]

 

[jsnpritchett]

 

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

True. Still important to remember the state tax only applies to those 81 home games. The rest applies to each city you play in.

True. But if he makes $10 million he’s paying close to $1 million in state taxes after you factor in 90+ games in CA. 

[beatlesrule]

The weather in Texas sucks. I'd rather live in a studio in Orange County than a nice house in Texas.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Not saying this because I want scherzer, or hate the mets, but I just cant see him going there. 

[eligrba]

29 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Already done that. Got a bunch of Catholic websites telling me I'll go to Hell unless I sign up for $49.99.

I have a promo code if you want it.

[totdprods]

Just now, beatlesrule said:

The weather in Texas sucks. I'd rather live in a studio in Orange County than a nice house in Texas.

Neither matter when you're a millionaire tens of times over. You can have both and then some.