Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[Inside Pitch]

One other thing to consider...  The Angels had zero Latin American presence until Eppler.  That entire system had to be reformed.  Or have people forgotten the yearly sell off of international money under Dipoto?

[eligrba]

Fuck Dipoto....I will always remember how Dipoto screwed up international signings.  He essentially repeated the Sam Bowie debacle....while ignoring the obvious connection that the Angels had with Vlad jr.  The Baldoquin signing was the move Arte should have stopped....I wonder if he has any regrets?  Links below to refresh everyone's memory.

Baldoquin

Vlad Jr

[ten ocho recon scout]

This some bullshit. Who the hell are we getting???

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Warfarin said:

Same.  Heyman's Tweets are annoying - just basically team XYZ is interested in this player, talks on-going.

Passan is great to follow - he usually just posts when a deal is done, as opposed to the perpetual "so and so is talking.."

Paul Heyman >>>>>> Jon Heyman

“And that’s not a prediction, that’s   a spoiler.”

Edited November 27, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[bruin5]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

I mean they entered 2021 as the youngest system in all of baseball

Is that a positive?  They didn’t have that many promotions to the MLB club.  There are going to be flameouts of draftees, but to get labeled as “youngest” means you either promoted a lot of guys or had a greater than average flameout rate of prior draftees.

[mmc]

 

[mmc]

 

[mmc]

Crazy that Loup and Neris got the same contract.  I'd much rather have Loup.

[Angel Oracle]

Neris would be fine, if not for some gopher ball propensity, and of course Minute Maid Park has that same propensity.

Edited November 27, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[UndertheHalo]

Folks, it’s a done deal

 

 

[tdawg87]

Lol

[AngelsLakersFan]

How do you not heart that?

[Inside Pitch]

25 minutes ago, bruin5 said:

Is that a positive?  They didn’t have that many promotions to the MLB club.  There are going to be flameouts of draftees, but to get labeled as “youngest” means you either promoted a lot of guys or had a greater than average flameout rate of prior draftees.

Is it a negative?  Attrition is absolutely a thing, so does having more young guys help or hurt your chances?  Would the Angels have been worse off having fewer young Latin American signees because OMG they flame out more than anyone else?  I know you want to make a point but c'mon... consider the counter to your reasoning.

There are a lot of reasons why the system is on the young side -- they focused on younger talent in recent drafts, I don't think anyone has drafted more true 17 year olds over the last 5-6 years than the Angels. It's also a byproduct of what previously promoting players who weren't ready had done to the "prospect" player pool.   There just isn't anyway around how the lack of money to address needs and the lack of organizational depth impacted the franchise.

BTW, did you sleepwalk through the CRod, Detmers, Warren, Marsh promotions?  How about the 9 other guys that made their MLB debuts?   Were 13 guys making their MLB debuts not enough?   Compare that to what say Houston did, look at the ages of the guys making their debuts in Houston and tell me what you come up with.

 

[Inside Pitch]

3 hours ago, Warfarin said:

Same.  Heyman's Tweets are annoying - just basically team XYZ is interested in this player, talks on-going.

Passan is great to follow - he usually just posts when a deal is done, as opposed to the perpetual "so and so is talking.."

Amen.   Only time Heyman has anything interesting to say is when Boras tells him what to say.

[tdawg87]

How many wrestling references is AO allowed per day? I forgot. 

[Dtwncbad]

5 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

How many wrestling references is AO allowed per day? I forgot. 

I don’t know.  Ask Matt.

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

I don’t know.  Ask Matt.

@matt How many wrestling references is AO allowed per day?

[Dtwncbad]

10 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

@matt How many wrestling references is AO allowed per day?

On second thought it is a little rude to pin it on Matt.

[eligrba]

10 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

@matt How many wrestling references is AO allowed per day?

I think it based on the number of references you make to your genitalia + 1.

[tdawg87]

4 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

On second thought it is a little rude to pin it on Matt.

Fuck.

[Dtwncbad]

How is this for a wrestling reference?

[ukyah]

6 hours ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

 

 

While I don't think we'll necessarily see the above, it'd be neat if the Mets/Eppler's spending spree triggers Arte to spend more, lol.  Then we'd all be thankful for what Eppler is doing

 

these are some pretty weak ass lol "facts".

[AngelStew43]

If Loup and Neris got similar contracts, I wonder what Knebel might be asking for.  I think he would make a fine replacement for Iglesias, if he's looking for another opportunity to close games. 

[rafibomb]

 

[Angels 1961]

Happy Birthday Mike Scioscia