Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

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[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, totdprods said:

Quoting for emphasis.

The important thing now is to have a perpetually solid farm like the Braves have built.   Then it becomes a sound strategy (short term contracts), assuming sound scouting.

[Angels 1961]

I see a Rich Hill signing by halos this week.

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[Dtwncbad]

16 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I see a Rich Hill signing by halos this week.

I am surprised you didn’t mention Cobb.

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[UndertheHalo]

Good.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

I wonder when we can expect some of the other key pitchers (Stroman, Ray, Max) to come off the board...

[Dtwncbad]

29 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

$25m for this year and $25m player option for next year.

I don’t think I would have wanted the Angels to give that player option.

[Lou]

$50M for 2 years? 

[Dtwncbad]

Just now, Lou said:

$50M for 2 years? 

And what if he is terrible after this surgery? They are on the hook for $50m if he is horrible or gets hurt.

[totdprods]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

$50M for 2 years? 

RIP

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

And what if he is terrible after this surgery? They are on the hook for $50m if he is horrible or gets hurt.

It would be great if accepts the option the day after he signs the contract. 

[Docwaukee]

very glad we didn't do that for Verlander.  

[Biergott]

This is gonna make prices even higher now

[Dtwncbad]

2 minutes ago, Biergott said:

This is gonna make prices even higher now

Why?

[BTH]

22 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

$25m for this year and $25m player option for next year.

I don’t think I would have wanted the Angels to give that player option.

it makes it a 2/$50M deal if he has a bad season. Great deal to avoid.

[Biergott]

Essentially 2/$50m at age 38 coming off TJS at What’s this make Ray or Scherzer worth?

Unfortunately if he’d gone anywhere his arm would fall off.  But he’ll probably be dominant with the asstros

[Dtwncbad]

Just now, Biergott said:

Essentially 2/$50m at age 38 coming off TJS at What’s this make Ray or Scherzer worth?

Unfortunately if he’d gone anywhere his arm would fall off.  But he’ll probably be dominant with the asstros

Doesn’t work like that.  Verlander and Ray are completely different in age, history, and health.

Verlander’s deal really isn’t going to impact Ray.

[Angels 1961]

2 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

I am surprised you didn’t mention Cobb.

He will follow. Pitching very expense this year. Ohtani, Syndergarrd, Sandoval, Suarez, Cobb and Hill with Detmers, Canning and Barria for depth. 

[WicketMaiden]

Astros really got taken, this is nice news. If he's rubbish, they're on the hook for $50m for 2 years of rehabbing sub-par Verlander on an innings limit (he went under the knife at the end of September 2020, so only 18 mths to Spring Training 2022 and 6 months behind Syndergaard). If he's back to his best - and it will take a fair chunk of the season before he is - then he'll opt-out. It's all upside for Verlander.

Here's a sobering thought: if post TJ rehabbing Verlander is getting $25m, what are Cy Young winner Robbie Ray and Matt Scherzer's agent likely to be asking for?

[angelsnationtalk]

21 minutes ago, WicketMaiden said:

Astros really got taken, this is nice news. If he's rubbish, they're on the hook for $50m for 2 years of rehabbing sub-par Verlander on an innings limit (he went under the knife at the end of September 2020, so only 18 mths to Spring Training 2022 and 6 months behind Syndergaard). If he's back to his best - and it will take a fair chunk of the season before he is - then he'll opt-out. It's all upside for Verlander.

Here's a sobering thought: if post TJ rehabbing Verlander is getting $25m, what are Cy Young winner Robbie Ray and Matt Scherzer's agent likely to be asking for?

Well Scherzer's agent is Scott Broas so there's your answer for him. $35M+ AAV guaranteed. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by angelsnationtalk

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[totdprods]

12 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Starter...s? Plural? 

[angelsnationtalk]

12 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Perry Minasian....