2021-22 CBA Negotiation/Lockout Thread (DEAL IS AGREED TO)

[Dtwncbad]

12 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

This is the lamest and most meaningless of all the individual issues.

[ScottT]

It's not the lamest.  Paying younger players more should happen. 

The gap is nothing, though.  Let's fucking go.

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, ScottT said:

It's not the lamest.  Paying younger players more should happen. 

The gap is nothing, though.  Let's fucking go.

Sorry but the difference between being paid $675k and $700k for a 24 year old is pretty meaningless.

[ScottT]

Just now, Dtwncbad said:

Sorry but the difference between being paid $675k and $700k for a 24 year old is pretty meaningless.

It's not always a 24 year old.  

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, ScottT said:

It's not always a 24 year old.  

I forgot about 23 year olds.  My bad.

[ScottT]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

I forgot about 23 year olds.  My bad.

Adolis Garcia finished 4th in AL ROY voting at age 28.

Yeah, your bad. 

[Dtwncbad]

Just now, ScottT said:

Adolis Garcia finished 4th in AL ROY voting at age 28.

Yeah, your bad. 

So now I should reference a 21 year old rookie?

[ScottT]

The pay gap was too much between minimum and Scherzer.

MLB agrees.  

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, ScottT said:

If you disagree..... oof. 

Players negotiated the previous CBA's.   Much like the US Women's Soccer team.   Difference is, one can't sue for "equal pay"

I said it was the lamest and most meaningless of the individual issues. I didnt say $25k isn’t real money and I certainly didn’t say anything about equal pay with women.

 

[ScottT]

I don't know what you're saying.  

I'm saying this is progress.  It's seemingly small differences.  Its gonna happen soon.

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, ScottT said:

I don't know what you're saying.  

I'm saying this is progress.  It's seemingly small differences.  Its gonna happen soon.

And I am saying the minimum salary issue is probably where “progress” is needed the least.  The mlb minimum is right in line with other major sports.  It’s fine that the union wants to inch it up, of course.  I expect them to get what they can get.  No objection.  Just saying I don’t see any injustice in mlb in this area that needs any hectic demands to correct.

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, AlwaysAnAngelsFan said:

So just like that AL wild card team in 2002.

Four post-season AL teams is a lot different from 6 or 7.

Plus no one game WC’s in 2002

[ScottT]

I'm glad it's gonna be 12 teams in the playoffs, not 14.  Owners probably always were gonna concede that.  

[Taylor]

The Angels fighting with six other teams for that third Wild Card spot will be fun. 

[Lou]

8 minutes ago, Taylor said:

The Angels fighting with six other teams for that third Wild Card spot will be fun. 

Better than not fighting at all. 

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

Better than not fighting at all. 

It'll really motivate After Arte to open up the coffers and pull in a moderately expensive middle reliever at the deadline.

[jsnpritchett]

13 minutes ago, Taylor said:

It'll really motivate After to open up the coffers and pull in a moderately expensive middle reliever at the deadline.

After is a great owner. 

[Taylor]

After Moltreno

[Inside Pitch]

The union believing MLB wants a deal is the biggest development in the last week.   Everything else including the numbers being thrown around is noise.

IMO, once expanded playoffs was assured everything else would start falling into place.

[T.G.]

Clearly, progress is being made now that Jeter is out of baseball. Wake up sheeple.

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, True Grich said:

Clearly, progress is being made now that Jeter is out of baseball. Wake up sheeple.

And let’s not forget he could have left baseball two months ago to avoid all this last minute stuff.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, True Grich said:

Clearly, progress is being made now that Jeter is out of baseball. Wake up sheeple.

Was Jeter the cancer, or the Messiah figure who sacrificed himself to save baseball?

[Dtwncbad]

3 hours ago, Taylor said:

The Angels fighting with six other teams for that third Wild Card spot will be fun. 

If it’s going to be 6 playoff teams from the AL, why not keep it simple and just have top 2 in each division?

This seems like a more organic playoff race when you are only competing with teams in your own division down the stretch.

I hate looking at the standings with all the little x’s and y’s.

 

[Taylor]

Just now, Dtwncbad said:

If it’s going to be 6 playoff teams from the AL, why not keep it simple and just have top 2 in each division?

This seems like a more organic playoff race when you are only competing with teams in your own division down the stretch.

I hate looking at the standings with all the little x’s and y’s.

 

Interesting idea. It's like every division has a Wild Card.

[Dtwncbad]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Interesting idea. It's like every division has a Wild Card.

Starting Sept 1, 19 of the team’s last 28 games are against teams in the AL West.  
Do we prefer the Angels are fighting Seattle  for a spot with head to head games or do we really prefer a wildcard system where we are scoreboard checking on the Guardians?