2021-22 CBA Negotiation/Lockout Thread (DEAL IS AGREED TO)

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

Join National Fans Union have a voice in the game you love

Why do you need us?

You already have a quorum (I heard you are the President, Vice President, Secretary, and Parliamentarian). 

[Lazorko Saves]

Still amazed what I read on this board.

We now have the idea that pre-arb released players should continue to be paid like they are guaranteed arb/FA contracts being taken seriously on this board.

Barry Bonds never officially retired, so should he be still getting paid league minumum by the Giants?  If not, why not? 

Don't emote; offer a logical explanation why that is wrong but the Angels should still pay the likes of Kean Wong in 2022 until another team puts him on their 40-man roster.

Edited February 24, 2022 by Lazorko Saves

[Angels 1961]

54 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Why do you need us?

You already have a quorum (I heard you are the President, Vice President, Secretary, and Parliamentarian). 

I am just 1 voice in the NFU fans that really the love the game. I am on the boycott committee of NFU.

[Dtwncbad]

5 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I am just 1 voice in the NFU fans that really the love the game. I am on the boycott committee of NFU.

Sounds legit.  How much  are your union dues?

Are they aligned with a credit union for good new car finance rates?

Do you get decent short and long term disability?

Or is it really just a stupid club of out-of-touch fans jerking themselves off thinking they will accomplish something?

[jsnpritchett]

 

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

Sounds legit.  How much  are your union dues?

Are they aligned with a credit union for good new car finance rates?

Do you get decent short and long term disability?

Or is it really just a stupid club of out-of-touch fans jerking themselves off thinking they will accomplish something?

NFU is hoping for a new an agreement can be reached and are waiting for response from Manfred's office regarding letter sent to him by NFU. This letter was sent in response to letter Manfred sent to fans. As of now I would not purchase tickets for April as who knows when season will start if at all. 

[Dtwncbad]

7 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

NFU is hoping for a new an agreement can be reached and are waiting for response from Manfred's office regarding letter sent to him by NFU. This letter was sent in response to letter Manfred sent to fans. As of now I would not purchase tickets for April as who knows when season will start if at all. 

Here is the “agreement”. . .

When MLB owners and players resolve the details of the new CBA, be a fan or don’t.

I don’t think you need a letter from them to understand this, so you?

[jsnpritchett]

Bowden being Bowden again.  If the owners actually did this, it would be a disaster.

 

[Stradling]

4 hours ago, Blarg said:

I think Angels 1961 needs to be locked out until the CBA is approved. 

He self banned, so there’s that.

[beatlesrule]

Which side stands to lose more money? Pretty sure it's the players. The billionaire owners are holding the cards. As a fan, that means the MLBPA are the ones that are letting it go this far. Still time to play ball as scheduled.

[AngelsLakersFan]

21 hours ago, Lou said:

No, it doesn't depend. Every contract that is signed is guaranteed. Nothing is guaranteed after that contract ends. 

What do you mean by guaranteed? A contract is by definition a guarantee... The Angels could cut Jared Walsh today and not pay him another cent.

[AngelsLakersFan]

8 hours ago, Lazorko Saves said:

Still amazed what I read on this board.

We now have the idea that pre-arb released players should continue to be paid like they are guaranteed arb/FA contracts being taken seriously on this board.

Barry Bonds never officially retired, so should he be still getting paid league minumum by the Giants?  If not, why not? 

Don't emote; offer a logical explanation why that is wrong but the Angels should still pay the likes of Kean Wong in 2022 until another team puts him on their 40-man roster.

Who is making this argument?

[AngelsLakersFan]

13 hours ago, Dochalo said:

here you go.  Lou and I are wrong.  

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/non-guaranteed-contract

I'm glad you guys learned this just in time for them to change the rules in the new CBA.

[ScottT]

5 hours ago, beatlesrule said:

Which side stands to lose more money? Pretty sure it's the players. The billionaire owners are holding the cards. As a fan, that means the MLBPA are the ones that are letting it go this far. Still time to play ball as scheduled.

I know who wins, money wise.  Fans!

Cheers, ladies and gentlemen!

[UndertheHalo]

 

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

 

That's about 4% of the team's overall value.

[Docwaukee]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

That's about 4% of the team's overall value.

and they won a WS

[UndertheHalo]

24 minutes ago, Lou said:

That's about 4% of the team's overall value.

Ya I guess they’re doing alright.  

[Lou]

16 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Ya I guess they’re doing alright.  

Meh

[Dtwncbad]

Anybody know where these financials came from?  Typically they are completely private so I wonder.

[Dtwncbad]

Thanks.

 

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

People become owners of professional sports franchises because it's a highly profitable venture. They don't do it out of the goodness of their own hearts, or simply because they "love the game" or whatever.

[UndertheHalo]

7 minutes ago, Taylor said:

People become owners of professional sports franchises because it's a highly profitable venture. They don't do it out of the goodness of their own hearts, or simply because they "love the game" or whatever.

Al Davis baby.  But yes. 

[T.G.]

9 minutes ago, Taylor said:

People become owners of professional sports franchises because it's a highly profitable venture. They don't do it out of the goodness of their own hearts, or simply because they "love the game" or whatever.

How do you know this?

[UndertheHalo]

Al Davis and his son were/are just rich weirdos that wanted a dang sports ball team.  Not the same type of rich as a lot of these owners now.  They’d never get in today.  
 

anyway, as pure as one of these guys can be in terms of why they do it.