2021-22 CBA Negotiation/Lockout Thread (DEAL IS AGREED TO)

[Dtwncbad]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

What both sides need is a fan boycott for 2 months. We are paying salaries and putting money into owners pockets. BOYCOTT

 

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

Fans get control back boycott is the answer. 

Control of what?

[ScottT]

It doesn't seem that players are ticked about the latest proposal.  I'll take that as a good sign.  

[eligrba]

5 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

No there are good and shitty people everywhere.  Lousy performers in the private sector are generally held accountable.

Lousy teachers are not.

This must be your hero. 

[Taylor]

3 minutes ago, eligrba said:

This must be your hero. 

Ugh, she's the worst.

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Ugh, she's the worst.

I thought billionaires were the worst?

 

[Taylor]

4 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

I thought billionaires were the worst?

 

I'm pretty sure she comes from one of those billionaire legacy families.

[mmc]

 

[Dtwncbad]

7 hours ago, Taylor said:

I'm pretty sure she comes from one of those billionaire legacy families.

I looked it up.  She’s a billionaire.

[Stradling]

20 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

They aren't even trying.  Today's proposal is just more of the same.

 

[m0nkey]

Season over

[T.G.]

Looks like @Lou is going to have to teach us the finer points of watching cricket.

[Taylor]

10 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Looks like @Lou is going to have to teach us the finer points of watching cricket.

[Angel Oracle]

21 hours ago, eligrba said:

I don't get it.  Both sides need a punch in the vagina.

More so the owners, as the players already gave up some things in the previous CBA 

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, True Grich said:

Looks like @Lou is going to have to teach us the finer points of watching cricket.

Just as long as they aren’t the matches that last for several hours.

[Taylor]

[Docwaukee]

6 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

More so the owners, as the players already gave up some things in the previous CBA 

if this is how the MLBPA is coming at the owners then we likely won't even have a season.  

if the players missed an opportunity last time in anticipation of making it up this time, they're stupid.

the owners are going to work off of the current CBA as a template because they should build on one another with progressive and appropriate modifications.  If the players think they're going to blow this one up and essentially start over then this is going nowhere for a long time.  

[wopphil]

I try not to immediately take the side of the owners, because I know there are good arguments on both sides. But what are the players so concerned about? Good players are making $40 mil a year, and middle relief guys are making more in a year than most people do in a lifetime. Is that really not enough? 

What I find so hypocritical about the union is that they prioritize free agency dollars over everything else (even though so few of them ever get to free agency). If they are really concerned about the young players, why not focus your negotiation strategy on raising the floor rather than the already high ceiling. 

[mmc]

31 minutes ago, wopphil said:

I try not to immediately take the side of the owners, because I know there are good arguments on both sides. But what are the players so concerned about? Good players are making $40 mil a year, and middle relief guys are making more in a year than most people do in a lifetime. Is that really not enough? 

What I find so hypocritical about the union is that they prioritize free agency dollars over everything else (even though so few of them ever get to free agency). If they are really concerned about the young players, why not focus your negotiation strategy on raising the floor rather than the already high ceiling. 

You've identified the concern of the players

[eligrba]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

More so the owners, as the players already gave up some things in the previous CBA 

Didn’t the players get better catering from the previous CBA?

[Lou]

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Just as long as they aren’t the matches that last for several hours.

Like baseball?

[Taylor]

26 minutes ago, Lou said:

Like baseball?

Yeah, but at least we can pass the time bitching about the Angels on AngelsWin (or laughing at the people bitching about the Angels).

[Lou]

17 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Yeah, but at least we can pass the time bitching about the Angels on AngelsWin (or laughing at the people bitching about the Angels).

AngelsWin  has nothing on RoyalChallengersWin, buddy.

[WicketMaiden]

5 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Just as long as they aren’t the matches that last for several hours.

T20 cricket lasts about three to fours hours tops, with a ball in play every 40 seconds or so, which is pretty much the same pace of play as baseball but without the 5 and 6 hour marathon games that go 15 innings. In T20 there's a 'super over' of 6 balls each to decide a tied game - most runs scored in the super over wins.

There are a lot of similarities between the two games. If the season is delayed try the IPL in India. A brilliant tournament that runs from April to June and great fun to watch.

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, Lou said:

AngelsWin  has nothing on RoyalChallengersWin, buddy.

RCO has the best nicknames.

[Dtwncbad]

Players adamant that the owners could share more of what they have!  Share!  It’s only fair!  Let’s be partners!

Still waiting for the partnership minded players union to show they have any interest in being partners with the minor league players.