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Race to oblivion ! Afghanistan vs. South Vietnam edition

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  1. 1. Which pathetic puppet entity will collapse faster !?

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    • South Vietnam (fell approximately 2 years after withdrawal of US forces)
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My name is Lt. Col. Stu Scheller, United States Marine Corps and the commander for Advanced Infantry Training Battalion.

I've been in the Marine Infantry for 17 years. Started my tour with Victor 1/8, the current unit that's doing perimeter security, dealing with the mess that's going on out there. You can see open source reporting that there was an explosion and people were killed. I know through my inside channels that one of those people that were killed was someone that I have a personal relationship with. I won't go into more detail because the families are still being notified. 

Not making this video because, you know, it's potentially an emotional time. I'm making it because I have a growing discontent and contempt for my perceived ineptitude at the foreign policy level, and I specifically have some questions for my senior leaders. And I'll say, as a person who's not at 20 years, I feel like I have a lot to lose. 

If you play chess you can only see two to three moves out.. too many variables I thought through... "If I post this video, what might happen to me if the video picks up traction. If I have the courage to post it?" But I think what you believe in can only be defined by what you're willing to risk. So if I'm willing to risk my Battalion Commander seat, my retirement, my family stability to say some of the things that I want to say, I think it gives me some moral high ground to demand the same integrity & accountability from my senior leaders. 

So I want to start with... we'll just use the Marine Corps... my... we'll stick with the Marine Corps. So in the current fallout of Afghanistan, a lot of Marines were posting on social media - and in response to that the Commandant published a letter, and I'm gonna read from it. It was dated 18 August, so only a week ago. So Commandant, sir, you wrote, 

"Some of you may be struggling with a simple question, 'Was it all worth it?' We want you to know that your service is meaningful, powerful, important. The Marine to your left, the Marine to your right - you never let them down."

Then you go on to say that, you know, if you're struggling you should seek counseling, which... you know I get it. People have killed people. I've killed people, and I seek counseling. Um, and that's fine. There's a time and a place for that. 

But the reason they're so upset on social media right now is not because the Marine on the battlefield let someone down. That service member always rose to the occasion, doing extraordinary things. People are upset because their senior leaders let them down and none of them are raising their hands and accepting accountability saying, "We messed this up". 

If an 0-5 Battalion Commander has the simplest live-fire incident, or an EO complaint, boom - fired. But we have a Secretary of Defense that testified in Congress in May that the Afghan National Security Force could withstand the Taliban advance. We have Chairmans of the Joint Chiefs - which the Commandant is a member of that - to advise on military policy, we have a Marine Combatant Commander... all of these people are supposed to advise. 

And I'm not saying 'stay in Afghanistan forever', but I am saying 'Did any of you throw your rank on the table and say 'Hey, it's a bad idea to evacuate Bagram Airfield, a strategic air base, before we evacuate everyone'.' Did anyone do that? And when you didn't think to do that, did anyone raise their hand and say, 'We completely messed this up'. I've got Battalion Commander friends right now posting similar things and they're saying, wondering if all the lives that were lost were in vain. All those people that we lost over the last 20 years... 

And [referencing the Commandant's letter again] he goes on to say we're all part of a chain and though every link may not be tested, the strength of the chain is only as strong each link, something like that. And what I'll say is - and from my position - potentially all those people did die in vain if we don't have senior leaders that own up and raise their hand and say, "We did not do this well in the end." 

Without that we just keep repeating the same mistakes.. this amalgamation of the economics/corporate/political/higher military ranks are not holding up their end of the bargain. I want to say this very strongly - I have been fighting for 17 years. I am willing to throw it all away to say to my senior leaders, 

I demand accountability.

 

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The hallmark of a dysfunctional organization.

Unfortunately our military is not competent enough to do the things our politicians have asked of them. They were either going to fuck up the leaving or continue to fuck up the staying. The less we ask of them going forward the better.

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6 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

The hallmark of a dysfunctional organization.

Unfortunately our military is not competent enough to do the things our politicians have asked of them. They were either going to fuck up the leaving or continue to fuck up the staying. The less we ask of them going forward the better.

our military has become politicians. It’s a daily competition to see which command can out flank his competition to the left. It’s not inconceivable that Biden was presented a piss poor plan. Probably more likely he was given a plan  and he proposed alternatives. That’s when the experts should have opposed him and I’m betting they all became yes men

also the changing demographics with more woman and gays isn’t helping with leadership or execution of the mission 

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