Trumped

[Adam]

I'm for neither

[mtangelsfan]

2 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

So you guys are for net neutrality, which is pretty much regulations to make isp's behave a certain way and not throttle based on who pays.  But are against regulations to make search engines not cram paid programming in their searches in the guise of actual search results.  Got it.

Do you really want the government dictating what is available on a search?  Or do you want them to control what you see first, second, third and down the line?

Remember, every time you give a right away, you never, ever get it back

[RallyMo]

21 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Thoughts?

Trump's economic advisor: 'We're taking a look' at whether Google searches should be regulated

One side of me says no it shouldn't be regulated.  But it seems more and more, whenever I do a search, that the top pages are always sponsored.  And the real information that I know is out there is nowhere to be seen.   I can literally type the domain name like angelswin.com, and a topic, and it'll give me a page of stuff from espn and a variety of other paid sites before aw.com even shows up.  

Don't use Google then, Mr. Consumer. It's not like there aren't other options. TERRIBLE IDEA.

[RallyMo]

10 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

So you guys are for net neutrality, which is pretty much regulations to make isp's behave a certain way and not throttle based on who pays.  But are against regulations to make search engines not cram paid programming in their searches in the guise of actual search results.  Got it.

Those are totally different concepts. Give me a friggin break.

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, RallyMo said:

Don't use Google then, Mr. Consumer. It's not like there aren't other options. TERRIBLE IDEA.

The others are much worse as far as paid/sponsored ads go.  

[RallyMo]

6 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

The others are much worse as far as paid/sponsored ads go.  

It's such a terrible idea.

[UndertheHalo]

35 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

So you guys are for net neutrality, which is pretty much regulations to make isp's behave a certain way and not throttle based on who pays.  But are against regulations to make search engines not cram paid programming in their searches in the guise of actual search results.  Got it.

This is such a ridiculous way to look at this.  Good grief GB.  Completely different purposes. 

[the dude abides]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

So this is what it looks like when a 75 year old man sucks cock. 

 

 

[Amazing Larry]

Break up Google just like Standard Oil and the Bells. They hold a monopoly over searches. 

Don't give me a sob story about Yahoo and Bing as alternatives either. There are about 7 people on the planet that use those piles of shit.

[Amazing Larry]

@mtangelsfan

https://apps.bostonglobe.com/opinion/graphics/2018/06/break-google/

[Adam]

32 minutes ago, the dude abides said:

 

 

My God these people are fucking tools

[mtangelsfan]

8 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

@mtangelsfan

https://apps.bostonglobe.com/opinion/graphics/2018/06/break-google/

Well if the Boston Globe, that paragon of conservatism, says so...............

breaking up Google and regulating searches are two separate things though.

[mtangelsfan]

and it isn't like I'm a fan of Bezos, I think he is self-important jerk who thinks he should have more say than most other people.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

Thoughts?

Trump's economic advisor: 'We're taking a look' at whether Google searches should be regulated

One side of me says no it shouldn't be regulated.  But it seems more and more, whenever I do a search, that the top pages are always sponsored.  And the real information that I know is out there is nowhere to be seen.   I can literally type the domain name like angelswin.com, and a topic, and it'll give me a page of stuff from espn and a variety of other paid sites before aw.com even shows up.  

Yep, I'm sure Trump's economic advisor is concerned about us poor internet users who have to see paid content. Trump and his crew have long been champions of forsaking profit for the sake of the little guy.

[Amazing Larry]

3 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Well if the Boston Globe, that paragon of conservatism, says so...............

breaking up Google and regulating searches are two separate things though.

Well here's a conservative source but it's behind a paywall...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-antitrust-case-against-facebook-google-amazon-and-apple-1516121561

[mtangelsfan]

1 minute ago, Lhalo said:

Well here's a conservative source but it's behind a paywall...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-antitrust-case-against-facebook-google-amazon-and-apple-1516121561

I just wonder if you would feel this strongly if Google was more conservative or at least not so combative with Trump.

[RallyMo]

10 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

I just wonder if you would feel this strongly if Google was more conservative or at least not so combative with Trump.

He wouldn't and there's no way he can genuinely state that he would. Don't give me some story stating otherwise.

[nate]

I use google all the time, I have never noticed sponsored ads.  Is that really a thing?

[Crampknees]

Trump:  Google search is "rigged."

Me: Everything you say is the opposite, guess it is ok to keep using it. 

[Thomas]

8 minutes ago, nate said:

I use google all the time, I have never noticed sponsored ads.  Is that really a thing?

[Thomas]

PS if you strongly are against Google, I'd recommend https://duckduckgo.com/

 

[nate]

I guess ad blocker stops those.  No idea why everyone doesn't use an ad blocker.  They do more than just block ads, they also block malicious scripts.

[Amazing Larry]

26 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

I just wonder if you would feel this strongly if Google was more conservative or at least not so combative with Trump.

 

14 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

He wouldn't and there's no way he can genuinely state that he would. Don't give me some story stating otherwise.

Of course I would. Look at the TBTF banks for instance. I'm all for them being broken up.

Many corporations in this country have become too dominant and overpowering in their industries. In a perfect world deregulation would not allow them to grow so large and the breaking up of monopolies would not be needed.

[RallyMo]

5 minutes ago, Thomas said:

PS if you strongly are against Google, I'd recommend https://duckduckgo.com/

 

I'm sorry. Your post is impossible. Try again.

[Thomas]

Google is a pretty slimy company that acted in decidedly bad faith while promising in its own creed to "Don't be evil" until they decided it wasn't necessary anymore. On the other hand considering the threat authoritarian countries consider a (relatively) free search engine, this attack on Google is chilling.