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[UndertheHalo]

11 minutes ago, BackUpTheTruck said:

Honor Killings because of homosexuality, becoming the victim of rape, among other things.  

But yeah, Christians . . .

Right, it would be impossible for fundamentalist Christians to figure out a way to justify honor killings.  Once that box is opened the slide would be steep and rapid.   There’s a spectrum for any kind of theocracy.  It’s really, not that difficult to imagine a really awful Christian one.  

And literally, 12 Russians were indicted for hacking election boards and stealing info on at least 500k people.  It’s not nothing.  Our democracy is being attacked.  

Edited July 14, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Blarg]

You people are weird. 

[Blarg]

6 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Right, it would be impossible for fundamentalist Christians to figure out a way to justify honor killings.  Once that box is opened the slide would be steep and violent.   There’s a spectrum for any kind of theocracy.  It’s really, not that difficult to imagine a really awful Christian one.  

And literally, 12 Russians were indicted for hacking election boards and stealing info on at least 500k people.  It’s not nothing.  Our democracy is being attacked.  

Right, because fixing the primaries wasn't attacking the Democratic way. 

[UndertheHalo]

46 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Right, because fixing the primaries wasn't attacking the Democratic way. 

Man Blarg, this is ridiculous.  Nice strawman.  Yea, the Democratic Party was against Bernie Sanders.  They cleared the field for Clinton.  That was what they did.  In some ways, it could be argued that it actually helped Sanders.  The field was cleared for him as well.  A lot of his voters would, much like you never vote for Hillary Clinton.  He was the only alternative to Clinton so he got all of those votes.  They didn’t stop his people from voting.  The party should have been unbiased and let it play out.  But that’s not what happened.  It’s still not “rigging the primary”  

and let’s not forget btw.  Bernie Sanders caucuses with the Democrats.  He was not a democrat.  He has largely in his career not been a member of the party.  Is it really that big of a surprise that the party threw everything behind its long coronated candidate.  The party being bias isn’t rigging.  Clinton won by collecting a lot more votes.  That’s the bottom line. 

45 minutes ago, BackUpTheTruck said:

"hacking the elections boards and stealing info on at least 550k people."

How does stolen info force anybody to vote for Trump?

If even if Russia was able to change vote totals, they would make sure Trump wins the popular vote to make the election believable.

  The point is that they are actively trying.  And instead of trying to stop it the republicans are trying to sweep the whole thing under the carpet.  

Edited July 14, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

7 minutes ago, BackUpTheTruck said:

They are banging their head against the wall. 

They will never be able to change vote totals in our elections, unless the elections are done on the internet like some people want.

If you have a corrupt executive branch colluding with them why not ? This is why the investigation is important.  Given what we know a robust investigation should continue unhindered.  All these people heading up the investigation are Republicans.  Mueller, Rosenstein (appointed by Trump) let them finish their work.  If Trump is innocent he’ll be vindicated.  If he’s not we have to know. 

Edited July 14, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[mtangelsfan]

2 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

A lot of variation in what could be classified as sharia law.  If we want to play a thought game and imagine what Christian theocracy might  look like you’d be surprised by how similar it would be in many, many ways to Islamic religious law.  Sharia doesn’t have to be the Isis or taliban interpretations. 

Anyway, either are terrible. 

 

This narrative is so stupid.  Good grief 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

Man Blarg, this is ridiculous.  Nice strawman.  Yea, the Democratic Party was against Bernie Sanders.  They cleared the field for Clinton.  That was what they did.  In some ways, it could be argued that it actually helped Sanders.

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[UndertheHalo]

11 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

 

This narrative is so stupid.  Good grief 

I think it’s stupid that you think Christianity is so pure and good.  You think Jerry Falwells brand of Christianity couldn’t spin into something resembling the Muslim brotherhoods brand of Islam ? I think it certainly could.  

[UndertheHalo]

Let me be clear.  I am not a person who believes in religion.  I have my reasons for that, and I don’t begrudge people of faith.

 Islam is practiced primarily by people in a very troubled region of the world.  Some, too many,  practice a despicable version of it.  The reasons for this are complex and numerous. 

I also think, that Christians are capable of being radicalized and twisting their faith into something that is also grotesque in the proper environment.  Historically, we have ample evidence of this possibility.   

Islam and Christianity can and are practiced in harmless fashions.  But they both definitely can and have been practiced in terrible ways.

Edited July 14, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Adam]

Actual Christian Law would be simple. Love your neighbor 

[Adam]

Wish someone would pass a law requiring the angels to release valbuena 

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, Adam said:

Wish someone would pass a law requiring the angels to release valbuena 

Agree. 

 

[Lou]

16 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I think it’s stupid that you think Christianity is so pure and good.  You think Jerry Falwells brand of Christianity couldn’t spin into something resembling the Muslim brotherhoods brand of Islam ? I think it certainly could.  

no, i don't

wager?

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

no, i don't

wager?

When the Jerry Falwell theocracy is introduced I’ll be happy to compare and contrast.  I’ll accept your wager at $100 bucks.  Hopefully we won’t ever get an opportunity to figure it out. 

Edited July 14, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Lou]

lol

changing the terms now.

 

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

lol

changing the terms now.

 

Oh brother.  How did I change terms ?  

[Lou]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

Oh brother.  How did I change terms ?  

you stated "Jerry Falwell brand of Christianity"

therefore, that brand must exist (in whatever sense you define it)

since it already exists, you have stated you are saying that " (it certainly could) spin into something resembling the Muslim brotherhoods brand of Islam "

so why do we now have to wait until it "is introduced"? my stance is that it won't spin onto something resembling the Muslim brotherhood brand of Islam.

and i'll bet you $25,000 that it won't

[UndertheHalo]

6 minutes ago, Lou said:

you stated "Jerry Falwell brand of Christianity"

therefore, that brand must exist (in whatever sense you define it)

since it already exists, you have stated you are saying that " (it certainly could) spin into something resembling the Muslim brotherhoods brand of Islam "

so why do we now have to wait until it "is introduced"? my stance is that it won't spin onto something resembling the Muslim brotherhood brand of Islam.

and i'll bet you $25,000 that it won't

Actually, I do think that Jerry Falwell was in a lot of ways very similar to what you might hear from a cleric endorsed by the brotherhood.  I thought we were talking about theocracies.  I apologize for not spelling that out in that post.  To be fair, that’s what was being discussed though.  So I thought it was presumed.  We do know what a government of brotherhood members looks like. We don’t with the other.  

Really, I’m not trying to be evasive.  

Also, I’m sorry man.  I can’t afford a 25k bet.   Pathetic, I know. 

[Lou]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

Also, I’m sorry man.  I can’t afford a 25k bet.

then don't lose

 

 

 

 

; )

[Blarg]

4 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Man Blarg, this is ridiculous.  Nice strawman.  Yea, the Democratic Party was against Bernie Sanders.  They cleared the field for Clinton.

She bought the Democratic party. With real money, bought it, installed her people to run it. What about that doesn't trigger some sort of response from you other than excuse making for fixing an election. 

This was internal to our national election process, not influenced by some outside source. It was dispicable and should have been considered illegal since the voters never had a choice of candidates, they had Hillary and some senile socialist that was a puppet. It might have well been the Russian election where it is Putin and whoever they didn't jail or assassinate.

Fuck, man, it was just flat out wrong. A horrible missuse of power and thankfully she was rejected. The Democratic party and all of their scheme's were rejected by those who wanted to actually participate in this election but were shut out. 

In is insane that you have no outrage for what transpired. Just plain insane. I'm not saying you should have voted for Trump but you certainly should not have supported what the Democratic party did to your rights to choose a candidate. 

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, Blarg said:

She bought the Democratic party. With real money, bought it, installed her people to run it. What about that doesn't trigger some sort of response from you other than excuse making for fixing an election. 

This was internal to our national election process, not influenced by some outside source. It was dispicable and should have been considered illegal since the voters never had a choice of candidates, they had Hillary and some senile socialist that was a puppet. It might have well been the Russian election where it is Putin and whoever they did jail or assassinate.

F*ck, man, it was just flat out wrong. A horrible missuse of power and thankfully she was rejected. The Democratic party and all of their scheme's were rejected by those who wanted to actually participate in this election but were shut out. 

In is insane that you have no outrage for what transpired. Just plain insane. I'm not saying you should have voted for Trump but you certainly should not have supported what the Democratic party did to your rights to choose a candidate. 

You’re entitled to your opinion Blarg.  I don’t agree with this description. 

Edited July 14, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Blarg]

Obviously you don't because you liked the candidate. It still doesn't excuse the fact you weren't given a choice. 

[Rico]

 

[Crampknees]

10 hours ago, Lou said:

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Damn it.  I tried to fill that in using the L for Lou. Laugh out Lou or Lou out Loud just are not funny.  I still can't return the service ace.  

[Crampknees]

I am really pissed at all these Brits or whatever they are protesting against our Emperor.  You saw it, you know it, we all saw it, we all know it.  He has the largest crowds ever. It is simply the most glorious time ever in all our lives.  Obama could have never given you this glorious moment.  Now on to Putin and build us all a temple.  Blarg?