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33 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Calling someone a socialist and actually being truthful is easy

That’s absolutely your opinion and not empirically true. Look, a Democrat is not going to carry Oklahoma or Kansas anyway.  It doesn’t matter who the Democrats run in places like that.  A person with her political position could carry the working class vote in a swing state.  There’s a lot of polling that supports that idea.  Polls are imperfect, but they do offer insight.  And someone like her would absolutely fire up the left wing portion of the party.  Which didn’t happen for Hillary.  Anyway those swing states and their laborers are the places that democrats need to target. 

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Just now, Kurt Swanson said:

Not sure if completely wrong.  Legend was he stuck the cigar in and went to puff on the other end.  Sounds oral to me. 

If my brain chose to forget that detail I'm not going to chastise myself too much over it.

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