Trumped

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

27 minutes ago, Tank said:

and it's a rare day that the EC is used in comparison with slavery. well done!

At the Philadelphia convention, the visionary Pennsylvanian James Wilson proposed direct national election of the president. But the savvy Virginian James Madison responded that such a system would prove unacceptable to the South: “The right of suffrage was much more diffusive [i.e., extensive] in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of Negroes.” In other words, in a direct election system, the North would outnumber the South, whose many slaves (more than half a million in all) of course could not vote. But the Electoral College—a prototype of which Madison proposed in this same speech—instead let each southern state count its slaves, albeit with a two-fifths discount, in computing its share of the overall count.

Virginia emerged as the big winner—the California of the Founding era—with 12 out of a total of 91 electoral votes allocated by the Philadelphia Constitution, more than a quarter of the 46 needed to win an election in the first round. After the 1800 census, Wilson’s free state of Pennsylvania had 10% more free persons than Virginia, but got 20% fewer electoral votes. Perversely, the more slaves Virginia (or any other slave state) bought or bred, the more electoral votes it would receive. Were a slave state to free any blacks who then moved North, the state could actually lose electoral votes.

If the system’s pro-slavery tilt was not overwhelmingly obvious when the Constitution was ratified, it quickly became so. For 32 of the Constitution’s first 36 years, a white slaveholding Virginian occupied the presidency.

Southerner Thomas Jefferson, for example, won the election of 1800-01 against Northerner John Adams in a race where the slavery-skew of the electoral college was the decisive margin of victory: without the extra electoral college votes generated by slavery, the mostly southern states that supported Jefferson would not have sufficed to give him a majority. As pointed observers remarked at the time, Thomas Jefferson metaphorically rode into the executive mansion on the backs of slaves.

[Jason]

7 hours ago, Tank said:

so wait, did you vote at all in this past election? if not, i'm not sure what all your fussing is about.

and it's a rare day that the EC is used in comparison with slavery. well done!

Well there’s been lots of comparisons of what’s happening at the border with the holocaust, so why stop there?

[Thomas]

9 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

At the Philadelphia convention, the visionary Pennsylvanian James Wilson proposed direct national election of the president. But the savvy Virginian James Madison responded that such a system would prove unacceptable to the South:

This is an interesting perspective on history.  Seeing as the idea of a direct election was soundedly defeated almost unanimously.  

And it wasn't just slave states that objected. Consider the New Jersey Plan from what was clearly not a slave state. Under the plan there would have only been one legislative house with one vote from each state. The executive would have been chosen from this house. Could you imagine the shit show this country would be today if THAT was the law of the land? Ironically you'd certainly prefer the Virginia Plan over the New Jersey Plan.

[Adam]

You’d think the media would start to learn

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUSKBN1JI07W

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Adam said:

You’d think the media would start to learn

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUSKBN1JI07W

Better yet, you'd think the public would have learned to take what the media says with a grain of salt.

[mtangelsfan]

15 minutes ago, Adam said:

You’d think the media would start to learn

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUSKBN1JI07W

But the media is always truthful and right.  Except for Fox News of course.

[Adam]

At the end of the day you just can't trust human beings to do the right thing. This is downright nefarious and it sucks that a fucking clown of a POS human being can say everything is fake news and we can't really blame people for giving that credence. 

[Spirit]

At least one news outlet is interested in the truth

 

[Adam]

PPN is THE trusted source for news

[Jason]

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/latino/393532-stormy-daniels-heading-to-border-to-try-to-help-migrant-children%3famp

Good. Things will straightened out now

[Lou]

Stormy is doing more than anyone here about the problem.

[Thomas]

33 minutes ago, Lou said:

Stormy is doing more than anyone here about the problem.

I went down to El Paso to do the same. I was kindly asked "For the love of God please stop". There was then a lot of yelling then darkness.

[Make Angels Great Again]

She's going down alright.

[UndertheHalo]

49 minutes ago, Lou said:

Stormy is doing more than anyone here about the problem.

 

[UndertheHalo]

Seriously, if anyone wants to help consider donating in order to assist people with being reunited.  There are good groups working on it. 

 

[Crampknees]

All my efforts regarding Trump will be solely focused on helping him get Space Force up and running.  

 

[Thomas]

I'm surprised you imply Trump is Jabba the Hutt. While they share similar moralities, especially towards human women, Hutt was mentally strong enough to be immune to Jedi Luke's force powers.  

[UndertheHalo]

12 minutes ago, Kurt Swanson said:

All my efforts regarding Trump will be solely focused on helping him get Space Force up and running.  

 

Fair.  I wish you luck in your endeavor. 

[Thomas]

Amazing though that Trump was able to use a proposal for moving Air Force Space Command from the USAF to being a department of the USAF to greatly shift attention away from putting kids in cages. Perhaps he really does have Jedi mind trick ability.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/latino/393532-stormy-daniels-heading-to-border-to-try-to-help-migrant-children%3famp

Good. Things will straightened out now

she's going to blow this whole thing up.

[Tank]

3 hours ago, Adam said:

You’d think the media would start to learn

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUSKBN1JI07W

i just knew this was a fake photo.

they just keep manipulating the public, and the public keeps lapping it up.

[Spirit]

9 minutes ago, Tank said:

she's going to blow this whole thing up.

 

[Spirit]

I thought you'd be more pleased to hear that the media views any crying Hispanic child as a victim, ripped from the loving arms as their mother.  And will report it as such.

 

 

 

(except, of course, for PPN)

 

[Schildog]

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump Jun 13

Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!

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ABC News‏Verified account @ABC 4h4 hours ago

NEW: Pres. Trump notifies Congress of decision to continue national emergency over North Korea, "citing existence and risk of proliferation of weapons-usable fissile material on the Korean Peninsula." https://abcn.ws/2tl6jng

 

strange as trump isn't known to embellish anything.

[Rico]

19 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Thomas Jefferson metaphorically rode into the executive mansion on the backs of slaves.

And jizzed on them.