Trumped

[Blarg]

These days liberals are like crack addicts and Trump is pure uncut meth.

[Thomas]

2 minutes ago, nate said:

The last Axis in that region went so well...

Why is there even a small subset of the population that long for those days? And why does it feel like it isn't THAT small a subset?

[nate]

2 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Why is there even a small subset of the population that long for those days? And why does it feel like it isn't THAT small a subset?

For the same reason that a scary looking spider feels like it is 10x bigger than it actually is.

I keep telling myself that this is the inevitable elasticity with a lot of social policy shifts over the last 25 years, I just hope things don't snap back too far.

Edited June 18, 2018 by nate

[Adam]

35 minutes ago, nate said:

Here is where the media totally misses a chance...

Crime in Germany is actually the lowest it has been in 30 years.  Merkel has the highest approval ratings of anyone in the German government and the pro-immigration parties are showing much higher approval than the anti-immigration ones..

Two out right and blatant lies to further his racist anti-immigration stance.

Ha. This actually is such a great example of blatant lying to strengthen his base. 99.999999999% of people who read this tweet would never even think to verify the information. 

[Spirit]

23 minutes ago, Thomas said:

I imagine this is the impetus of the tweet.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/austria-migration-axis-kurz-italy-germany_us_5b22736ae4b09d7a3d7ad352

PS That isn't scary sounding at all!

 

HuffPo?   Please.

 

 

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, Geoff said:

HuffPo?   Please.

Better?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/austria-sebastian-kurz-anti-migration-germany-italy-refugee-crisis-eu-a8398756.html

[nate]

8 minutes ago, Adam said:

Ha. This actually is such a great example of blatant lying to strengthen his base. 99.999999999% of people who read this tweet would never even think to verify the information. 

Exactly

[Spirit]

19 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Better?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/austria-sebastian-kurz-anti-migration-germany-italy-refugee-crisis-eu-a8398756.html

 

Ugh ... the uk press, better?  Mildly.

 

 

[Thomas]

3 minutes ago, Geoff said:

Ugh ... the uk press, better?  Mildly.

It's not like I reference these idiots

[Spirit]

7 minutes ago, Thomas said:

It's not like I reference these idiots

 

Heroes of journalism, they are.

 

[Lou]

Re: crime in Germany: 

" From 2015 to 2016, the number of suspected crimes by refugees, asylum-seekers and illegal immigrants increased by 50 percent"

[nate]

14 minutes ago, Lou said:

Re: crime in Germany: 

" From 2015 to 2016, the number of suspected crimes by refugees, asylum-seekers and illegal immigrants increased by 50 percent"

Source?

Quote

But data from the German government suggests Trump's hypothesis on crime is incorrect. Statistics from the Federal Ministry of the Interior show that 2017 saw the lowest number of crimes committed in Germany since 1992. The number of non-German suspects dropped almost 23% from 2016 to 2017.

 

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, nate said:

Source?

 

Who the hell knows what Trump was referring to. Obviously it isn't their overall crime rate because every source shows that it's down. Maybe there is some truth to what Lou posted. If that's the case, Trump's tweet is misleading at best

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42557828

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/migrant-crime-germany-rises-50-per-cent-new-figures-show/

[Taylor]

Brown people bad. Immigrants bad. Muslims bad.

[Make Angels Great Again]

[Jason]

Just now, Make Angels Great Again said:

That's the thing for me, zero solutions.

[Adam]

As if solutions are important. Our entire two party system is about taking advantage of polarizing events and political capital. The right is just way better at it than the left. 

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I don't disagree but it's just one of many things that both sides do.  The R's railed against Obamacare ever since it was created and when they had the chance to "fix" it they failed miserably.  To be fair they had to address the fact that millions more now had insurance so whatever plan they came up with wouldn't have a high probability of success or support if people lost their insurance.  Never mind the fact that nothing's been done by either side to address the actual costs of healthcare but in politics once you give something to people good luck taking it away, reducing what is given or asking people to pay more for it.   

[Adam]

The left had better figure out how to take advantage of this before the data reveals immigration and related (negative) stats are down. 

[nate]

13 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

The reason this is bullshit is it is a problem Trump created.  He was the one that chose the zero tolerance policy, it was not enforced before him.

The solution is reverting to how things were until a new solution can be agreed upon.

If you are trying to figure out how to put out a house fire, you don't set the house on fire, then go about debating how to put it out.

[Rico]

The solution is to not do that thing you're doing. 

[Adam]

5 minutes ago, nate said:

The reason this is bullshit is it is a problem Trump created.  He was the one that chose the zero tolerance policy, it was not enforced before him.

The solution is reverting to how things were until a new solution can be agreed upon.

If you are trying to figure out how to put out a house fire, you don't set the house on fire, then go about debating how to put it out.

That's all fine and dandy, but every election immigration is a top 3-5 issue and the needle never moves. He's going to put himself and his party in a position to stand on results. The dipshits who elect people have collective ADD and no one will remember giving a shit about how it was accomplished 2 years from now

[nate]

9 minutes ago, Adam said:

That's all fine and dandy, but every election immigration is a top 3-5 issue and the needle never moves. He's going to put himself and his party in a position to stand on results. The dipshits who elect people have collective ADD and no one will remember giving a shit about how it was accomplished 2 years from now

I disagree with that.  There are always changes, just not rapid, because nothing in our government is rapid.

What he did was brash and truly torturous.

What surprises me even less honestly is that Evangelicals are still turning a blind eye to it.  At least they got their cake exception.

[nate]

Hope you guys enjoy paying more for everything!  

The modest tax cuts we got are going to be completely wiped out by the massive increase in import costs.

 

[Adam]

How many specific group identities are there? I don’t know what you mean by evangelicals. Is that simply Protestants? Is the whole group on board? 51%? 

The left thought Obamacare would be an accomplishment they could stand on. But the shit that comes with it never goes away. When immigration is down and crimes related to immigration are down and this shit ain’t happening anymore it’s going to be hard to find a sympathetic group of voters.