Trumped

[UndertheHalo]

14 minutes ago, Blarg said:

 

 

How is it that can be misconstrued that the US has threatened annihilation of North Korea in the past?

The annhililation bit has been implied inplicitly.  More then sufficiently for the North Koreans to get the message.  For a long, long time.  

[Crampknees]

6 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

It is amazing how far people will reeeeeeeeeeeeach to not give Trump credit.

 

He already gives it to himself 1,000 times over.  No need to worry who else won't. 

[mtangelsfan]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

The annhililation bit has been implied inplicitly.  More then sufficiently for the North Koreans to get the message.  For a long, long time.  

If what Trump was doing is no big deal.  Why were so many folks freaking out about what he was doing?  I mean we heard he was going to get us into a war with them, he was going to get South Korea nuked, etc.  All by the same people now saying he wasn't doing anything different than before.

I mean, come on.

[UndertheHalo]

14 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

If what Trump was doing is no big deal.  Why were so many folks freaking out about what he was doing?  I mean we heard he was going to get us into a war with them, he was going to get South Korea nuked, etc.  All by the same people now saying he wasn't doing anything different than before.

I mean, come on.

Because it was dangerous an irresponsible ? And we had no idea how it would play out with an extremely unprediactable regime ? Yes it was very alarming.  Practically though,  the policy has remained the same.  There’s a lot of moving parts that have brought the koreas where they are today.  I just don’t believe that the Donald Trump tweet commentary is part of that.  I don’t think he did anything to stand in the way of the unfolding developments. 

With or without the commentary, I think we’d probably be in the same place.  Also.  I’m not sure if your previous comment was directed at me.  I imagine me and several others.  Anyway, I have given Trump credit for the things I think he’s done that matter.  The ONE significant change he’s made was the agreement to meet Kim Jong Un.  And a month or so ago or whatever it was.  I said that I supported his doing that.  On this forum.  So good on him for that.  He also gets credit, as I said before for securing the release of the 3 guys yesterday.  If you want to give him points for more then that.  That’s your view and that’s fine.  I don’t agree with that. 

Edited May 3, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

Also, as has been brought up many times here.  Again, we don’t know where this is going.  We’ve sort of been down this road before and it didn’t actually resolve in anything.  We’ll see what happens and hope for the best.  I do hope that Donald Trump gets to be the one that finally puts this nightmare to bed. 

Edited May 3, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[mtangelsfan]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Because it was dangerous an irresponsible ? And we had no idea how it would play out with an extremely unprediactable regime ? Yes it was very alarming.  Practically though,  the policy has remained the same.  There’s a lot of moving parts that have brought the koreas where they are today.  I just don’t believe that the Donald Trump tweet commentary is part of that.  I don’t think he did anything to stand in the way of the unfolding developments. 

With or without the commentary, I think we’d probably be in the same place.  Also.  I’m not sure if you’re previous comment was directed at me.  I imagine me and several others.  Anyway, I have given Trump credit for the things I think he’s done that matter.  The ONE significant change he’s made was the agreement to meet Kim Jong Un.  And a month or so ago or whatever it was.  I said that I supported his doing that.  On this forum.  So good on him for that.  He also gets credit, as I said before for securing the release of the 3 guys yesterday.  

and yet now it is no big deal, not much different than previous administrations.

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

and yet now it is no big deal, not much different than previous administrations.

It turned out to be no big deal.  Fortunately.  I don’t know.  Am I not expressing myself ? I’m just saying that I don’t think the tweet diplomacy changed anything.  

How about considering the role that South Korea played ? They have an entirely new government.  They’re sort of important also you know. 

[mtangelsfan]

Of course and for the record I did not like the saber rattling.

But it seems to have worked out.  I give him credit for getting them to the table.  If anything works it will mostly be NK and SK.

[Lou]

4 hours ago, Kurt Swanson said:

The payment was to repay the payment I know nothing about, to the lying porn star I never met, for the affair we never had.  Now believe it or you are a libtard. 

That doesn't mean it's structuring.

[Lou]

4 hours ago, RallyMo said:

This is a pretty decent summary, but we're way too far past all those lies for people who previously cared about politicians lying to bother being upset by them. It's hard to hit such an erratic moving target.

"Who cares, it was only a blowjob"

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

That doesn't mean it's structuring.

Structuring is pretty simple to understand (I’m sure that you do). Any deliberate effort to evade the reporting triggers for a financial institution.  You go to three different branches to deposit 11k in the same day.  10K is the trigger.  That’s the simplest example of structuring.  Cohen appears to have structured.  Tho, it’s more complex then my example. 

Edited May 3, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[RallyMo]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

"Who cares, it was only a blowjob"

Exactly. Everyone's the same.

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Structuring is pretty simple to understand (I’m sure that you do). Any deliberate effort to evade the reporting triggers for a financial institution.  You go to three different branches to deposit 11k in the same day.  10K is the trigger.  That’s the simplest example of structuring.  Cohen appears to have structured.  Tho, it’s more complex then my example. 

Did you read my posts regarding this topic?

[UndertheHalo]

7 minutes ago, Lou said:

Did you read my posts regarding this topic?

I have now and you are correct.  But the bit about the 35k a month is unclear.  It matters whether it was a cash withdrawal. If it was and the intention was always to get 35k at least one report (something call a CTR) would have had to be reported.  If they did in such a way that there was no CTR.  That is structuring. 

Edited May 3, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

Also, the bank is at fault for failing to file the CTR.  It’s the banks responsiblity as well to identify and properly report this activity. 

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I have now and you are correct.  But the bit about the 35k a month is unclear.  It matters whether it was a cash withdrawal. If it was and the intention was always to get 35k at least one report (something call a CTR) would have had to be reported.  If they did in such a way that there was no CTR.  That is structuring. 

If it was a $35k withdrawal, Trump did nothing wrong. 

[Crampknees]

16 minutes ago, Lou said:

"Who cares, it was only a blowjob"

One he claims to have never gotten.  Do the math. 

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Also, the bank is at fault for failing to file the CTR.  It’s the banks responsiblity as well to identify and properly report this activity. 

There you go.

A person is not obligated to report themselves 

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Kurt Swanson said:

One he claims to have never gotten.  Do the math. 

"I did not have sex (pause) with that woman"

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

If it was a $35k withdrawal, Trump did nothing wrong. 

35k cash withdrawal requires a CTR.  If they did it in such a way that it evaded the reporting that is plainly structuring Lou.  

I’d have to see more details I guess.  But from what I’ve seen it appears to be. 

[Lou]

Not to mention the whole lying under oath to a grand jury 

[Lou]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

35k cash withdrawal requires a CTR.  If they did it in such a way that it evaded the reporting that is plainly structuring Lou.  

I’d have to see more details I guess.  But from what I’ve seen it appears to be. 

And I'm saying that would make it the bank's fault, not Trump's. 

 

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

There you go.

A person is not obligated to report themselves 

No they do not have a reponsibility to report themselves.  The issue is whether they deliberately acted to avoid the reporting. If they did it’s a felony and it’s called structuring. 

Regardless of however the banks self auditing failed. 

Edited May 3, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Lou]

Also, a $35,000 withdrawal is not structuring, no matter how many times you claim that it is

[Crampknees]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

Not to mention the whole lying under oath to a grand jury 

Yep.  He didn't like Hillary then like everyone else and have just said I got a beej.  Trump just has to say I got a beej and his followers hope they can now get one.