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2 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

I hate Trump but nobody else has been able to do that.

I'm in the same boat. I didn't vote for Trump because I'm one of the guys that still thinks character should count. I will admit I am shocked that he has not completely screwed everything up like most anticipated. Some good things are actually happening and we all should be glad that they are. 

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42 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Nobody else has ever explicitly threatened to destroy their country. Might have a little something to do with it?

 

Could be. Could also mean that North Korea is in a desperate situation as a result of foreign policy for the last several decades and had no choice. Maybe it's a calculated effort of something more sinister. We are talking about a guy who will tie you up to a pole and kill you via anti aircraft guns or have you cut up into pieces and fed to dogs. Family relations be damned. 

We'll see how this all plays out. The result of which we might not see for awhile. 

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I’m sorry.  I don’t accept that Donald Trumps bravado changed policy positions of the North Koreans.  I think what you said the other day seems correct.  They feel they can negotiate from a more favorable position.  So, they are doing so.  

Lets not forget that the South Korean government itself has a far different posture then it has for some time.  I think that probably has a lot more to do with it then Donald Trumps loose rhetoric.

I give Trump credit for agreeing to meet with Kim Jong Un.  I give him credit for successfully getting the prisoners released today.  But I think it’s unreasonable and silly to imagine that the hellfire comments changed anything for North Korea.  They still proceeded with their tests.  Some of their most provocative.  Those are the facts. 

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3 hours ago, Rico said:

 

He forgot about the fact that Hastert was a serial sexual abuser of children .

Plus, Hastert made over 100 withdrawals of under $10,000 after being specifically being told (and provided documentation that withdrawals such as the ones he subsequently made were illegal if done to avoid them being reported)  This was after he was informed that his previous withdrawals of $50k in cash needed to be reported.  He then lied to the FBI about it.  

 

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“That removes the campaign finance violation, and we have allthe documentary proof for it,” Mr. Giuliani said. He added that when the initial payment was made, Mr. Cohen did it “on his own authority.” “Some time after the campaign is over, they set up a reimbursement, $35,000 a month, out of his personal family account"

If he was withdrawing more than $10k, it isn't structuring

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6 minutes ago, Kurt Swanson said:

The payment was to repay the payment I know nothing about, to the lying porn star I never met, for the affair we never had.  Now believe it or you are a libtard. 

This is a pretty decent summary, but we're way too far past all those lies for people who previously cared about politicians lying to bother being upset by them. It's hard to hit such an erratic moving target.

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5 hours ago, Blarg said:

Please list all of the president's that explicitly said they would rain hellfire down on North Korea. 

You seriously believe that is what it took is all.  I suspected you had a magic MAGA hat you wore but now I think you have the full collectors set. That LGBTQ rainbow MAGA hat I hear is rare. 

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1 hour ago, RallyMo said:

This is a pretty decent summary, but we're way too far past all those lies for people who previously cared about politicians lying to bother being upset by them. It's hard to hit such an erratic moving target.

It's the best witch hunting season on record. I have already bagged two flying by then made them sweep the patio. 

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7 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

I’m sorry.  I don’t accept that Donald Trumps bravado changed policy positions of the North Koreans.  I think what you said the other day seems correct.  They feel they can negotiate from a more favorable position.  So, they are doing so.  

Lets not forget that the South Korean government itself has a far different posture then it has for some time.  I think that probably has a lot more to do with it then Donald Trumps loose rhetoric.

I give Trump credit for agreeing to meet with Kim Jong Un.  I give him credit for successfully getting the prisoners released today.  But I think it’s unreasonable and silly to imagine that the hellfire comments changed anything for North Korea.  They still proceeded with their tests.  Some of their most provocative.  Those are the facts. 

Your claim was other presidents had threatened war, nuclear war on North Korea. Now you are running away from that statement and changing the subject. 

7 hours ago, arch stanton said:

The reason nobody else explicitly threatened to destroy North Korea is because it's playing chicken with the lives of 8 million or so South Koreans who have weapons pointed at them 24/7 for the last 65 years. But for Donny, it was a chance he was willing to take

I agree with this in principle but there are other factors, one is that of China softening it's position on backing North Korea.  

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