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[Make Angels Great Again]

The only good reason I can think of for the Bolton hiring is for negotiating power with NK. Kind of like "This guy sitting next to me wrote an article about how we can nuke you. Don't fuck with me."

Other than that, yeah it sucks.

[Thomas]

Trump wants a legacy. Bolton can help get him one.

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

Trump wants a legacy. Bolton can help get him one.

Taking us back to the Stone Age ! No one will ever forget !

[Make Angels Great Again]

2 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Trump wants a legacy. Bolton can help get him one.

 

I'm pretty sure he already has a legacy before Bolton.

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

The only good reason I can think of for the Bolton hiring is for negotiating power with NK. Kind of like "This guy sitting next to me wrote an article about how we can nuke you. Don't fuck with me."

Other than that, yeah it sucks.

You can’t really think that fucking Bolton intimidates the North Koreans.  Come on man. 

[Make Angels Great Again]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

You can’t really think that fucking Bolton intimidates the North Koreans.  Come on man. 

 

You guys are saying yourself that he loves war, and I don't disagree with you. Showing NK that this guy is in Trump's ear gives them some pause at the very least.

[Thomas]

3 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

I'm pretty sure he already has a legacy before Bolton.

Does Trump strike you as someone who settles for "good enough"?

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

You guys are saying yourself that he loves war, and I don't disagree with you. Showing NK that this guy is in Trump's ear gives them some pause at the very least.

Bolton can’t start a war by himself.

Edited March 23, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Thomas]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

Bolton can’t start a war by himself. 

True in theory but the checks and balances is kind of broken at the moment.

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

True in theory but the checks and balances is kind of broken at the moment.

Fair. 

[Make Angels Great Again]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

Does Trump strike you as someone who settles for "good enough"?

 

Well that's a nice pivot.

I think it's highly doubtful he hired Bolton to improve upon his legacy, that's all.

[Make Angels Great Again]

3 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Bolton can’t start a war by himself. 

 

Of course not, but again, it shows that there's a voice at the table who really wants to lay waste to pretty much half of the eastern Continents.

I think that has some negotiating value.

[UndertheHalo]

2 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

Of course not, but again, it shows that there's a voice at the table who really wants to lay waste to pretty much half of the eastern Continents.

I think that has some negotiating value.

Perhaps, but it seems to me that the president doesn’t really need John Bolton to convince the North Koreans that he’s dangerously unpredictable. 

[Thomas]

3 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Well that's a nice pivot.

I think it's highly doubtful he hired Bolton to improve upon his legacy, that's all.

Pivot? I think Trump wants to be mentioned in history books for the foreseeable future. Bolton helps him in that regard.

[red321]

7 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Bolton can’t start a war by himself.

No, but he can certainly have significant influence on someone who is acting more and more unhinged as time goes by. Think about this, Trump literally will tweet in response to Fox & Friend segments, change is stated position based on Steve Doocy talking to him through the tv tube...now think about Bolton directly face to face. As little a fan of John Kelly as I am...word is starting to trickle out that Trump is considering removing kelly and replacing him with...himself. At that point you are talking about the worst of the worst having direct and unfettered access to Trump.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

15 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

I'm pretty sure he already has a legacy before Bolton.

Nixon has a similar legacy.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

3 minutes ago, red321 said:

No, but he can certainly have significant influence on someone who is acting more and more unhinged as time goes by. Think about this, Trump literally will tweet in response to Fox & Friend segments, change is stated position based on Steve Doocy talking to him through the tv tube...now think about Bolton directly face to face. As little a fan of John Kelly as I am...word is starting to trickle out that Trump is considering removing kelly and replacing him with...himself. At that point you are talking about the worst of the worst having direct and unfettered access to Trump.

Trump gets his foreign policy from watching Fox and Friends, as well as his cabinet.

[Make Angels Great Again]

If it results in de-nuclearizing NK, then maybe more Presidents should do the same.

[RallyMo]

28 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

I'm pretty sure he already has a legacy before Bolton.

Yes, but to this point that legacy politically is:

1) to intentionally piss off people like me

while

2) having people like you slurp up his goo (partially due to #1)

so that he can

3) maneuver to further enrich himself.

Starting an actual war would put him in areas of the history books that he thus far hasn't touched.

 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

Tucker Carlson Explains Why White People Aren’t ‘Designed’ to Live Around Immigrants

I expect Carlson will replace Ben Carson as secretary of Housing and Urban Development any time now. He has the prefect resume he works at Fox (Trump Propaganda) Fake News service.

[UndertheHalo]

19 minutes ago, red321 said:

No, but he can certainly have significant influence on someone who is acting more and more unhinged as time goes by. Think about this, Trump literally will tweet in response to Fox & Friend segments, change is stated position based on Steve Doocy talking to him through the tv tube...now think about Bolton directly face to face. As little a fan of John Kelly as I am...word is starting to trickle out that Trump is considering removing kelly and replacing him with...himself. At that point you are talking about the worst of the worst having direct and unfettered access to Trump.

I think Bolton is a disaster.  I was just disputing the idea that Bolton was brought on as a tool to intimidate NK.  I’m very certain that Trump believes In Bolton’s world view and will seriously consider his advice. 

Edited March 23, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Make Angels Great Again]

8 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

Yes, but to this point that legacy politically is:

1) to intentionally piss off people like me

while

2) having people like you slurp up his goo (partially due to #1)

so that he can

3) maneuver to further enrich himself.

Starting an actual war would put him in areas of the history books that he thus far hasn't touched.

 

 

And appointing a Supreme Court Justice, and reducing the tax burden of every day Americans, and ditching a terrible trade deal like TPP, and ending the individual mandate, and beginning deregulations, and virtually putting an end to ISIS, and....

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

And appointing a Supreme Court Justice, and reducing the tax burden of every day Americans, and ditching a terrible trade deal like TPP, and ending the individual mandate, and beginning deregulations, and virtually putting an end to ISIS, and....

Lol.  

 

[Make Angels Great Again]

11 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I think Bolton is a disaster.  I was just disputing the idea that Bolton was brought on as a tool to intimidate NK.  I’m very certain that Trump believes In Bolton’s world view and will seriously consider his advice. 

 

Trump's views have actually completely contradicted Bolton's in the past. Best example is the Iraq war. Trump has been against it, while Bolton is a fan.

[Make Angels Great Again]

16 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Tucker Carlson Explains Why White People Aren’t ‘Designed’ to Live Around Immigrants

I expect Carlson will replace Ben Carson as secretary of Housing and Urban Development any time now. He has the prefect resume he works at Fox (Trump Propaganda) Fake News service.

 

That has to be the worst written article i've ever read.