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3 hours ago, mrwicked said:

Trump is a tool on so many issues, but he’s killing it on the economy.  

Fun fact: Obama was the first president in US history, never mind two terms, who never had GDP growth over 3% at any point in his presidency...  Trump, barely a month in.  lol.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/us/politics/trump-davos-speech-fact-check.html

Mr. Trump’s accurate claim of 2.4 million jobs added “since my election” requires more context.

The economy has added almost 2.4 million jobs in the 14 months since Mr. Trump was elected in November 2016 — but it is worth noting that this number includes the last three months of Barack Obama’s presidency.

Also, as a point of comparison, the economy added 2.8 million jobs in the 14 months before Mr. Trump’s election.

During the first 11 full months of Mr. Trump’s presidency, 1.8 million jobs were added. And in the 11 months before he was inaugurated, 2.1 million jobs were added.

It is also debatable whether Mr. Trump, or any first-year president, can take full credit for a strong economy (or be censured, were it to happen, for weak economic performance). As my colleague Neil Irwin has explained: “If you think the economy is driven by concrete, specific policies around taxes, spending, monetary policy and regulation, the answer is no. If you think that what really matters is the mood in the executive suite, then just maybe.”

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Mr. Trump’s claim that “there’s never really been a businessman or businessperson elected president” is wrong.

Several presidents have owned, operated or worked in the field of business.

Most immediately, George Bush and George W. Bush both owned several oil companies based out of Texas. The latter was also part of an ownership group that purchased the Texas Rangers baseball team. Jimmy Carter owned a peanut farm and some other real estate in Georgia.

Herbert Hoover became wealthy after founding a mining engineer consultancy. Warren Harding was the owner and publisher of a newspaper. Calvin Coolidge worked for a bank. Teddy Roosevelt owned and operated a ranch in the Dakotas Territory.

Looking further back, George Washington, James Madison and James Monroe all owned plantations.

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11 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

We'll see. If all Muller has on Trump is obstruction then that might ding his approval rating for a week. There needs to be a lot more than that to make any kind of real political difference. And even if theres something big, I'd still be skeptical, given the hyper-partisan times we're in. You think there's any chance the house would vote to impeach Trump? Lol

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22 minutes ago, InsideThePark said:

We'll see. If all Muller has on Trump is obstruction then that might ding his approval rating for a week. There needs to be a lot more than that to make any kind of real political difference. And even if theres something big, I'd still be skeptical, given the hyper-partisan times we're in. You think there's any chance the house would vote to impeach Trump? Lol

Obstruction is all they had on Nixon. He resigned before he was impeached. Obstruction of justice is a felony under federal law. LOL

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6 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Obstruction is all they had on Nixon. He resigned before he was impeached. Obstruction of justice is a felony under federal law. LOL

Have you been following conservative media at all?  Republicans won't agree if all they have is obstruction.

Plus Nixon was dealing with a Democrat majority house. Needless to say, he would have been impeached.

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1 minute ago, InsideThePark said:

Have you been following conservative media at all?  Republicans won't agree if all they have is obstruction.

Plus Nixon was dealing with a Democrat majority house. Needless to say, he would have been impeached.

http://www.newsweek.com/can-trump-be-indicted-are-sitting-presidents-immune-prosecution-650484

A federal grand jury can probably indict a sitting president for committing a serious felony, unless other rules preclude that. The house doesn't necessarily need to impeach for him to be charged.

I am not saying it will indict but it could, but probably won't. Although after the November elections the House has a very good chance of changing hands. Trump has alienated women, and minorities and even some Republicans.

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26 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Yes by 3,000,000 popular votes. It is time do away with the electoral college and let a true majority rule like every other democracy.

Trump didn't try to win the popular vote. The electoral vote gives people in small populated States like Montana a voice, too.

And the polls were junk, too. Were you polled?

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47 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Yes by 3,000,000 popular votes. It is time do away with the electoral college and let a true majority rule like every other democracy.

You'll have to take that up with the Founding Fathers. They weren't interested in setting up a pure democracy. It's a Republic, and the president is elected state by state.

The electoral college could be abolished by amending the Constitution, but the founders made that hard to do.

 

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