Trumped

[red321]

Chip expired almost 120 days ago. trump and co created the DACA issue close to 120 days ago. Congress has been passing this round of CRs for close to 120 days. 

If republicans had allowed a clean DACA or chip bill, they would both pass easily. If the bipartisan immigration compromise was allowed to move forward, that reportedly includes some funding for the border wall Mexico was supposed to pay for, it would pass easily (hence the reason stephen Miller brought in hardliners to change Trumps mind). 

This is the kind of shit when you legislate by blackmail and cow tow to the extremist right wing part of your party. 

[Glen]

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2018/01/19/pay-stops-mission-continues-shutdown-101-for-troops-and-families/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

[Jason]

1 hour ago, Glen said:

Holy shit, you're drinking from his grail. Were you one of those guys who constantly bitched about Obama mentioning Bush?

DACA was an Obama EO no?

FWIW I don’t blame Obama for this one bit. It’s the way DC operates

[Glen]

Hey MAGA, who loves the troops?

https://shareblue.com/watch-mitch-mcconnell-kill-effort-to-protect-military-pay-as-gop-pushed-for-shutdown/#.WmNbKGl8CCI.twitter

[Make Angels Great Again]

Haha. I won't even click that link.

Shareblue is probably the worst of the worst of democratic propaganda.

[UndertheHalo]

What it sounds like is that Schumer and Trump were close to a deal in the afternoon.  Schumer gave on the wall and military spending.  Presumably this included a solution to the DACA problem that was acceptable to the democrats.  Since Trump doesn’t actually have an ideological compass, this was agreeable for him.  He’s getting his wall and gets to spend more on the military.  At some point the republicans got into his ear and determined that the framework they were close on was “too liberal” and that was that.  

So here we are.  The republicans won’t compromise on anything. 

[Glen]

42 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Haha. I won't even click that link.

Shareblue is probably the worst of the worst of democratic propaganda.

Here ya go, all verifiable:

Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a resolution that would have secured pay for service members, noting that Trump has been trying to divide the country by invoking the military and putting the blame on Democrats if they were to go unpaid in the event of a shutdown.

She then said, “I don’t want one moment to pass with there being any uncertainty of any soldier anywhere in the world that they will be paid for the valiant work they do on behalf of our national security.”

Despite widespread concern for the issue amongst both Democratic and Republican voters, Republican leadership didn’t show any regard for protecting military pay as they moved to shut down the government.

McConnell quickly objected to McCaskill’s resolution — and instead left military pay up in the air along with the other casualties of his party’s decision to grind the federal government to a halt.

The move was slammed by the military advocacy group VoteVets, who noted that Republicans were willing to use the military “as a prop” to attack Democrats, but when it came time to take substantive action, they dropped the ball.

Will Fisc

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, Glen said:

Here ya go, all verifiable:

Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a resolution that would have secured pay for service members, noting that Trump has been trying to divide the country by invoking the military and putting the blame on Democrats if they were to go unpaid in the event of a shutdown.

She then said, “I don’t want one moment to pass with there being any uncertainty of any soldier anywhere in the world that they will be paid for the valiant work they do on behalf of our national security.”

Despite widespread concern for the issue amongst both Democratic and Republican voters, Republican leadership didn’t show any regard for protecting military pay as they moved to shut down the government.

McConnell quickly objected to McCaskill’s resolution — and instead left military pay up in the air along with the other casualties of his party’s decision to grind the federal government to a halt.

The move was slammed by the military advocacy group VoteVets, who noted that Republicans were willing to use the military “as a prop” to attack Democrats, but when it came time to take substantive action, they dropped the ball.

Will Fisc

Hahaha

[fan_since79]

Trump has upped the ante. No immigration talk until the Democrats help to reopen the government.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-shutdown/trump-to-democrats-no-immigration-talk-until-government-reopened-idUSKBN1F90DE

 

#SchumerShutdown

[Glen]

I didn't realize Chuck Schumer had so much power.

[InsideThePark]

41 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

#SchumerShutdown

Good work, Sarah.

[RallyMo]

11 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

I don't think Trump ever said Mexico would directly fund the wall. Perhaps indirectly though.

You're so FOS.

There is no doubt whatsoever that he's stated they will pay for it indirectly and it's not wholly unreasonable to say that he's said they'll pay for it outright.

Whatever the case, if there's funding for the wall in whatever budget ends up being passed, there won't likely be anything more than a basic outline of how funds will be procured from Mexico to cover the cost. If there's a rock solid plan as part of the funding, that would at least be somewhat nice.

[RallyMo]

51 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Trump has upped the ante. No immigration talk until the Democrats help to reopen the government.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-shutdown/trump-to-democrats-no-immigration-talk-until-government-reopened-idUSKBN1F90DE

 

#SchumerShutdown

Why are you interested in this? Nobody's died yet as a result.

[Rico]

How many days into the shut down before Trump just decides to go golfing the rest of the time?

[UndertheHalo]

I bet he’s super pissed he had to scrap his trip to Mar E Lago this weekend.  

[tennischmp]

Can this drag on for 3 years?

[Crampknees]

Stephen Miller was all like no brown people ever period and Trump was like good but I still can't guarantee you I can get you laid. Stephen Miller?  How does a tapeworm like that even crawl that close to the orange ham flower. Stephen Miller People magazines most eligible shithole. 

[Blarg]

Jesus Kurt, take your medication that was Halothunder incoherent. 

[InsideThePark]

5 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Jesus Kurt, take your medication that was Halothunder incoherent. 

Each time you comment, you prolong our agony.

[red321]

14 minutes ago, Kurt Swanson said:

Stephen Miller was all like no brown people ever period and Trump was like good but I still can't guarantee you I can get you laid. Stephen Miller?  How does a tapeworm like that even crawl that close to the orange ham flower. Stephen Miller People magazines most eligible shithole. 

I bet miller’s relatives feel a lot like the relatives of that family in perris or a mass shooter

[Rico]

2 hours ago, Kurt Swanson said:

Stephen Miller was all like no brown people ever period and Trump was like good but I still can't guarantee you I can get you laid. Stephen Miller?  How does a tapeworm like that even crawl that close to the orange ham flower. Stephen Miller People magazines most eligible shithole. 

[Glen]

[Jason]

2 hours ago, Glen said:

At least the phone handset isn't upside down

[Rico]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/us/politics/trump-shutdown.html?referer

"In fact, it was Mr. Trump who opted not to pursue a potential deal that he and Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the top Senate Democrat, had hashed out over lunch at the White House on Friday. The proposal would have kept the government open, funded a border wall and extended legal status to undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children, while including disaster aid funds and money for a federal children’s health insurance program. Mr. Kelly later called Mr. Schumer to say the agreement lacked sufficient immigration restrictions."

[the dude abides]

"A shutdown falls on the President's lack of leadership. He can't even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak" -Donald Trump 2013