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The democrats would be smart to just give on the wall.  Then scream to the heavens that they’re giving on that.  The republicans have been saying for the last month that they want to make a deal on the “dreamers”.  Let’s see them make a deal if they get their stupid wall.  I’m not holding my breath 

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40 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

The bill was not bipartisan at all. It didn't properly fund border security and didn't address chain migration. Cut the crap Rico.

Whatcha talking about? https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/dreamers-deal-reached-but-trump-has-yet-to-sign-off-336501

The group includes Sens. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) and Robert Menendez (D-N.J.).

That's as bipartisan as it gets

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19 minutes ago, wopphil said:

I disagree. They need to start fighting back. They need to obstruct Trump at every possible opportunity. 

Hey man, I hate that the it always seems like the democrats have to cave.  The republicans play hardball on everything at all times.  They wouldn’t give an inch to Obama ever.  

That said, this is the wrong hill to die on.  Immigration is a loser for the democrats.  They look weak on border security and it’s going to kill them.  Fight for the people that don’t deserve to be deported because that’s the right and ethical thing to do.  But aside from that being the wide open borders party is going to cost them.  

Really, this isn’t the battle where they need to draw a line in the sand.  They need to appear reasonable and win voters over.  If they can wrestle some control away from the republicans in November that’s when they can do damage.  Hopefully that’s exactly what happens.

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7 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

Whatcha talking about? https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/dreamers-deal-reached-but-trump-has-yet-to-sign-off-336501

The group includes Sens. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) and Robert Menendez (D-N.J.).

That's as bipartisan as it gets

 

Flake and Graham are RINOs.

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4 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

The bill presented by that group was not bi partisan in the sense that the terms of it were shit and not to Trump or the republicans benefit. Regardless of who presented the bill.

So the shut down is on Trump and the Republicans.

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Jesus Christ that is horse shit.  You know what the democrats can say ? 

The republicans care more about fucking over Mexicans then the soldiers.  

The military doesn’t have jack shit to do with anything on this topic.  Crying about the soldiers is always the republicans first go to move.  It’s a crock of shit. They don’t give a fuck about the solidiers.

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1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

Jesus Christ that is horse shit.  You know what the democrats can say ? 

The republicans care more about fucking over Mexicans then the soldiers.  

The military doesn’t have jack shit to do with anything on this topic.  Crying about the soldiers is always the republicans first go to move.  It’s a crock of shit. They don’t give a fuck about the solidiers.

 

If by "fucking over Mexicans" you mean enforce our immigration laws, you're damn right.

The soldiers are the best example, hell the God damn TSA agents have to work for free and even that pisses me off. All because democrats want to force their will over "dreamers"

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