Trumped

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, Adam said:

Just when the left was cemented as the anti-free speech culture, Trump has to bring this up.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/fbi-chief-encryption-public-safety-issue/

[Adam]

That seems to be a bipartisan issue

[mtangelsfan]

5 minutes ago, Thomas said:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/fbi-chief-encryption-public-safety-issue/

Most rights are given away or taken away in the name of safety.

[Adam]

There are only authoritarians and non-authoritarians

[Spirit]

25 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Most rights are given away or taken away in the name of safety.

 

... and marriage.

 

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

This would make all political campaigns illegal.

It would also make talking crap about the president on a baseball message board grounds for a law suit. Anything "published" (presented in a form that can be seen by more than one person) meets the criteria for a libel/defamation suit.

[red321]

17 minutes ago, Taylor said:

It would also make talking crap about the president on a baseball message board grounds for a law suit. Anything "published" (presented in a form that can be seen by more than one person) meets the criteria for a libel/defamation suit.

ummm...

 

 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

19 minutes ago, Taylor said:

It would also make talking crap about the president on a baseball message board grounds for a law suit. Anything "published" (presented in a form that can be seen by more than one person) meets the criteria for a libel/defamation suit.

Truth is a defense against defamation.

[Spirit]

35 minutes ago, Taylor said:

It would also make talking crap about the president on a baseball message board grounds for a law suit. Anything "published" (presented in a form that can be seen by more than one person) meets the criteria for a libel/defamation suit.

 

"Donald Trump is a douche'!!!"

 

Come get me, Feds!

 

 

[Blarg]

If you had said, I think Donald Trump is a douche it would not be libellous since it is an unsubstantiated opinion and not presented as a fact. It is also ambiguous as to whether you are sure of said disposition. 

You stupid dork.

 

[Taylor]

24 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Truth is a defense against defamation.

I'm aware of this. But the reason it's essentially impossible for public figures to sue for libel (even against false, defamatory statements) is that public figures have to prove "actual malice"—which means reckless disregard for the truth. Basically, they have to prove that the "publisher" purposely and knowingly published false information. This is virtually impossible to prove (because it's very subjective, and the burden of proof is on the one bringing the suit).

Right now, if Nate or red or I post something defamatory about Trump that turns out to not be false, Trump doesn't have a case against AngelsWin (the publisher) unless he can prove that Nate, red, or I acted with actual malice. Similarly, if CNN publishes a defamatory article about Trump that turns out to include false information, Trump cannot sue unless he can prove that the staff of CNN acted with actual malice.

If CNN published defamatory, false information about, say, yvangel, yvangel could sue CNN and win because she is not a public official. 

If public officials could sue for libel, there would be a "chilling effect" in which individuals and the press would never dare speak out against the government, professional athletes, celebrities, etc., because if anything you said (published) turned out to be false, they could sue you.

I might be totally off base with this, but as far as I understand the law (admittedly based on one semester of Communication Law in college), internet message board posts would be considered "published" information in a libel suit.

[Thomas]

48 minutes ago, Taylor said:

It would also make talking crap about the president on a baseball message board grounds for a law suit. Anything "published" (presented in a form that can be seen by more than one person) meets the criteria for a libel/defamation suit.

Would we be sued or would @Chuckster70?  You know what to do guys. 

PS Donald Trump killed like 70 homeless dudes with his barehands. 

[mtangelsfan]

29 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Would we be sued or would @Chuckster70?  You know what to do guys. 

PS Donald Trump killed like 70 homeless dudes with his barehands. 

Sad

[Thomas]

3 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Sad

Was it more?

[mtangelsfan]

7 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Was it more?

LOL, no I was making fun of how Trump puts "Sad" in some of his tweets.

[Thomas]

5 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

LOL, no I was making fun of how Trump puts "Sad" in some of his tweets.

Yeah, I figured if I said that, Trump would boast that it was more.

[Amazing Larry]

I heard he killed a drifter to get an erection. 

Edited to add:

 

Edited January 11, 2018 by LHalo

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, Thomas said:

Would we be sued or would @Chuckster70?  You know what to do guys. 

PS Donald Trump killed like 70 homeless dudes with his barehands. 

Chuck would be sued. Sorry, Chuck!

[tennischmp]

4 hours ago, Taylor said:

Chuck would be sued. Sorry, Chuck!

Trump wouldn't dare to sue Chuck

[arch stanton]

That would be like the People vs Larry Flynt only with a bigger sleezebag and suing for the opposite effect

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

So there is no collusion then. Trump, just said there is no collusion 8 times in 1 minute answer to whether he will have restrictions in a interview with Muller.

[Rico]

I think it would be impossible for Trump not to lie to Mueller.  So I can't imagine that interview being allowed to take place.

[Crampknees]

16 hours ago, Taylor said:

It would also make talking crap about the president on a baseball message board grounds for a law suit. Anything "published" (presented in a form that can be seen by more than one person) meets the criteria for a libel/defamation suit.

In that case I already passed lawsuit territory, I'm headed straight for Guantanamo Bay.  Can the locals sneak In-N-Out through the fence? 

[arch stanton]

I think I’m safe since I’m just a character doing satire one here. And I’ve already established that I have great disdain for those who would ruin a good story by interjecting facts. And if all else fails I just plead “stupid autocorrect “

[mtangelsfan]

1 hour ago, Kurt Swanson said:

In that case I already passed lawsuit territory, I'm headed straight for Guantanamo Bay.  Can the locals sneak In-N-Out through the fence? 

Nice knowing you Kurt.  Hope you've learned to speak Spanish.