Trumped

[yvangelfan]

1 minute ago, red321 said:

So you are acknowledging that Flynn was directed by Trump and his transition team to undercut the current president of the United States?

After 11-8-16 Flynn was directed to contact Ambassadors all over the world to discuss the Trump Administration's preferred direction on sanctions against Russia.

And he spoke with the Russian Ambassador during the transition. We know this, because the conversation was being surveilled by the Obama Administration,

and then leaked to the Washington Post.

 

But please, dummies, get excited!

[fan_since79]

1 hour ago, nate said:

Prediction: we will be dropping bombs on North Korea within the next 12 hours.

We're going to get a big, beautiful tax cut first.

 

[nate]

1 minute ago, fan_since79 said:

We're going to get a big, beautiful tax cut first.

 

Not us, unless you make $1m a year.

[RallyMo]

59 minutes ago, yvangelfan said:

Flynn was directed  to make contact with many countries, including Russia,  during the TRANSITION, after Trump was elected, regarding sanctions against Russia. 

But do please, get your hopes high on this!

 

40 minutes ago, yvangelfan said:

After 11-8-16 Flynn was directed to contact Ambassadors all over the world to discuss the Trump Administration's preferred direction on sanctions against Russia.

And he spoke with the Russian Ambassador during the transition. We know this, because the conversation was being surveilled by the Obama Administration,

and then leaked to the Washington Post.

 

But please, dummies, get excited!

I'm not sure what's more adorable: your posts or your profile pic.

[nate]

2 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

 

I'm not sure what's more adorable: your posts or your profile pic.

whatever, dummy

[RallyMo]

1 minute ago, nate said:

whatever, dummy

Let me distill his posts for all:

DUMMIES, PLEASE!

[nate]

1 minute ago, RallyMo said:

Let me distill his posts for all:

DUMMIES, PLEASE!

I legit lol'd

[Make Angels Great Again]

I mean, is he wrong though?

This still isn't evidence of collusion. Nothing worthy of indictments.

[Taylor]

26 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

I mean, is he wrong though?

This still isn't evidence of collusion. Nothing worthy of indictments.

Have you heard the phrase, "Where there's smoke, there's fire?" Well, right now there are flames.

Edit: Big, orange flames.

[red321]

Lying to FBI and actively working to undermine the foreign policy of the current administration isn't worthy of indictments?

This wasn't Flynn just reaching out to say hi...this was Flynn, named future head of NSC, working at the direction of people above him (note...there would really only have been two people above him on the transition team at that time - Pence and Trump) to push foreign governments to vote specific ways in the UN undermining the Obama administration's diplomatic efforts and to try and undermine the current administration's sanctions against Russia.

But hey...I guess you can decide if you think that's a big deal. Personally I think it is a criminal offense but it certainly shouldn't bring down the Trump administration...we've certainly seen worse in the past (see Reagan/Iran Hostages and Nixon/1968 peace talks for a few examples).

You also have to consider what Flynn wasn't indicted with either...by all accounts he was chin deep in a lot of financial chicanery, a Turkey kidnapping plot, etc. Now, maybe Mueller and team didn't have enough evidence to charge him...that certainly might be the case though I tend to think Flynn might have laughed that off and fought the charge.

The other possibility is that they offered him a sweetheart of a deal, including not charging his son, to bring only a single charge that would carry about 5 years tops in return for his cooperation on much larger issues.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/federal-prosecutors-explain-what-mike-flynn-plea-deal-means

“What’s interesting to me is what he’s not charged with,” said Steven Miller, a former anti-corruption federal prosecutor. “This is a very narrowly drawn structural plea bargain. By virtue of a single count he can’t get more than a five-year sentence. You don’t get that unless you’re giving something serious to the government. And the number of players left are relatively small: it’s [Jared] Kushner, it’s [Donald] Trump Jr., it’s the Trump campaign, and it’s the President. So I think this is something that would cause all of them to be extraordinarily worried.”

“It’s a neon sign that there’s massive cooperation underway by Flynn,” Miller added.

Jens Ohlin, an expert in criminal law at Cornell Law School, concurred, saying what essentially amounts to a “sweetheart deal” would not be offered unless Flynn could incriminate a bigger fish.

“The government would not agree to this deal if Flynn was merely providing information on someone who is in a peripheral place in the criminality,” Ohlin said. “So if he’s providing information in exchange to this deal its because it’s someone who is even more centrally located than Flynn.”

[Thomas]

10 minutes ago, red321 said:

“The government would not agree to this deal if Flynn was merely providing information on someone who is in a peripheral place in the criminality,” Ohlin said. “So if he’s providing information in exchange to this deal its because it’s someone who is even more centrally located than Flynn.”

Pretty big leap of faith here.

[Spirit]

This tweet wins the internet.

 

 

[nate]

 

[fan_since79]

Ty Cobb, the president's lawyer, has issued a statement. I'm sure he'll bring the same tenacity to defending Trump that he brought to the baseball diamond. He's getting his spikes all nice and sharpened to dig into those pesky Democrats.

 

 

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, calscuf said:

That's so great. Thank you for the lol.

[Taylor]

[Jason]

4 hours ago, yvangelfan said:

After 11-8-16 Flynn was directed to contact Ambassadors all over the world to discuss the Trump Administration's preferred direction on sanctions against Russia.

And he spoke with the Russian Ambassador during the transition. We know this, because the conversation was being surveilled by the Obama Administration,

and then leaked to the Washington Post.

 

But please, dummies, get excited!

If he didn’t have real dirt on Trump they wouldn’t have let him make this plea

[Rico]

[Rico]

 

[red321]

White House is stating that Mike Flynn conversations' with the Russian Ambassador to meddle/counteract Obama administration diplomacy was authorized by....

 

 

 

Obama administration

 

 

MAGA...if I you were you I'd be pretty pissed...they think you are a moran

Edited December 1, 2017 by red321

[Rico]

I think it's pretty safe to say that Flynn wasn't fired because he "lied" to Pence, but rather because he was caught red handed by the FBI.

[Taylor]

46 minutes ago, red321 said:

White House is stating that Mike Flynn conversations' with the Russian Ambassador to meddle/counteract Obama administration diplomacy was authorized by....

 

 

 

Obama administration

 

 

MAGA...if I you were you I'd be pretty pissed...they think you are a moran

It would be funny if Obama set this all up to implicate Trump.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

5 hours ago, yvangelfan said:

After 11-8-16 Flynn was directed to contact Ambassadors all over the world to discuss the Trump Administration's preferred direction on sanctions against Russia.

And he spoke with the Russian Ambassador during the transition. We know this, because the conversation was being surveilled by the Obama Administration,

and then leaked to the Washington Post.

 

But please, dummies, get excited!

At the very least Trump, is a narcissist, a liar, an egomaniac, a sexist, a racist, one of the worst communicators due to putting his foot in his mouth repeatedly, and a moron. He is dangerous, and has access to the nuclear football.

It's going to be another long year before the Republicans lose both houses of congress, and even with controlling both houses the GOP has had their hands full trying pass any legislation.

[Jason]

Flynn is pretty stupid the way he dealt with this. Amateur  WWHD

[red321]