Trumped

[Jason]

12 minutes ago, nate said:

Funny for you to say this since you and most of the people here are quick to condemn ISIS and demand war against them.

Nazis are worse than ISIS by many orders of magnitude, it isn't even close.

Beyond that, you and the rest of the people in our current administration would quickly arrest and send ISIS wannabes to Guantanamo but do nothing about Nazis marching.

The modern, Richard Spencer following, assholes are not the same as the German Nazis. Surely you can see that Islamic extremeists are a larger threat?

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, LHalo said:

rally to end tax hikes.

Watch yourself or I'll raise yours.

[nate]

37 minutes ago, Jason said:

The modern, Richard Spencer following, assholes are not the same as the German Nazis. Surely you can see that Islamic extremeists are a larger threat?

Nope.  Just because they haven't tried to genocide anyone doesn't make them not a threat.  ISIS is weak, but because our DOD and all the Christian crusaders of the world need an enemy we have turned them into one.

Again, shows how white Christians see Nazis.  They were and are the greatest threat this world has ever seen.

[Blarg]

Nate, you've lost it. 

[Thomas]

1 hour ago, nate said:

Funny for you to say this since you and most of the people here are quick to condemn ISIS and demand war against them.

I'm what?!?!? Serious citation needed. Good luck on that pointless endeavor. I'm the exact opposite. You're simply wrong. I grew up reading reading about Americans eager to kill my ancestors because of their ethnicity. I'm sure as hell  never going to advocate the killing of other ethnicities simply to give me the laughably false sense of security at night some hope for. Let alone support the counter intuitive notion that we can eradicate an opposing ideology by bombing it. This country has tried that. A lot. It never works.

1 hour ago, nate said:

Nazis are worse than ISIS by many orders of magnitude, it isn't even close.

Beyond that, you and the rest of the people in our current administration would quickly arrest and send ISIS wannabes to Guantanamo but do nothing about Nazis marching.

I diametrically oppose any violent coercive political philosophy and organization that subscribes to them. Be it a descendant of the Nazis or whichever group this week has clothed themselves in the guise of Islamic radicalism. However I'm not going to double down on their violent coercion by advocating a similar response in kind. Or to trivialize the value of any human life, even if their political views oppose my own personal values. I'd rather hold myself to a much higher standard. Certainly never suggest we send members of any of these groups to the immoral prison in Guantanamo. Our justice system may be sadly inadequate but we will be truly lost if we eschew it for a more convenient answer. Be it the perversion of the law the current administration prescribes. Or the answer of vigilantism given by some on the left.

[red321]

1 hour ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

Life's not always fair?

 

That's your response? 

 

I’m gonna admit...the idea that the person who likes throwing out the term snowflake is upset that he can’t attend an anti-tax rally with Nazis without being labeled a Nazi makes me laugh. 

[Kevin]

A Jew and a Nazi attend an anti tax rally without knowing the other one is there. 

 

So are they both Jews or are they both Nazis? I just don't see how the analogy works. 

[nate]

These Nazis were in uniform and flying flags

[red321]

6 minutes ago, nate said:

These Nazis were in uniform and flying flags

Maybe it was a Halloween anti-tax rally and since Nazis appears to be in right now figured...costume idea!

Edited November 2, 2017 by red321

[mtangelsfan]

5 hours ago, nate said:

Nope.  Just because they haven't tried to genocide anyone doesn't make them not a threat.  ISIS is weak, but because our DOD and all the Christian crusaders of the world need an enemy we have turned them into one.

Again, shows how white Christians see Nazis.  They were and are the greatest threat this world has ever seen.

You do know Spencer is an atheist, right?

[UndertheHalo]

The Doyers lost the World Series yesterday and the Angels locked up Justin Upton today so im pretty happy and can’t really be bothered to get angry at political stuff right now.  That said, and I don’t know how many times this has been said  but I’ll say it again.  The president needs to forcefully reject and renounce white nationalists and nazis over and over again until they stop pointing to him as their victory symbol.  Maybe that’s unfair and it’s a shitty misunderstanding.  But as long as he doesn’t whole heartedly denounce them it really does look like at best tacit approval on his part. 

Fiscal conservatives that really think the best way to run the country is with absolute minimum taxation and full blown lessaiz faire capitalism, I would think would not want fucking nazis ruining their anti tax party.  

[red321]

He doesn’t denounce them for a few reasons

1) he knows it’s his base

2) he subscribes to white grievance politics.

3) He is the Breitbart comment section. He is the Fox News watcher. He is your crazy uncle posting conspiracy theories about chem trails on Facebook. He is the infowars target demographic. He is the fwd: fwd: thread come to life. 

[Blarg]

Do you realize we how damn small that "base" you speak of is? There are more gays in Los Angeles than that entire subset of society in all of the US. They are not an influential voting block.

Shit you guys are wierd.

[red321]

I think his base is a lot larger than you think

[Thomas]

31 minutes ago, red321 said:

3) He is the Breitbart comment section. He is the Fox News watcher. He is your crazy uncle posting conspiracy theories about chem trails on Facebook. He is the infowars target demographic. He is the fwd: fwd: thread come to life. 

Apparently his bait catches more than just those on the far right.

[Blarg]

3 minutes ago, red321 said:

I think his base is a lot larger than you think

It's not the one you think it is. But keep beating that drum because it put him in office once maybe you can insure a second term.

[Blarg]

In case you didn't notice there was peace and quiet for 11 minutes today. 

US President Donald Trump's Twitter account briefly vanished on Thursday, but has since been restored, the social media company has said.

It said that the @realdonaldtrump account was "deactivated" by an employee, later clarifying that it was their last day in the job.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41854482

Edited November 3, 2017 by Blarg

[red321]

If you are willing to vote for trump, knowing his autocratic white nationalist bent...you are no different than the garden torch wielding idiot even if you aren’t willing to own up to it and blame dirty liberals. 

[Thomas]

4 minutes ago, red321 said:

If you are willing to vote for trump, knowing his autocratic white nationalist bent...you are no different than the garden torch wielding idiot even if you aren’t willing to own up to it and blame dirty liberals. 

I suppose this persuasion technique is more effective than kicking someone in the balls and slapping their kids but only just.

[red321]

18 minutes ago, Thomas said:

I suppose this persuasion technique is more effective than kicking someone in the balls and slapping their kids but only just.

Do you think someone who is a trump supporter is persuadable? I thought that ship would have sailed. 

[mtangelsfan]

31 minutes ago, red321 said:

If you are willing to vote for trump, knowing his autocratic white nationalist bent...you are no different than the garden torch wielding idiot even if you aren’t willing to own up to it and blame dirty liberals. 

Donald Trump will send you a thank you card after his 2020 victory 

[mtangelsfan]

5 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

You do know Spencer is an atheist, right?

I am guessing Nate didn't know this.

[Thomas]

Just now, red321 said:

Do you think someone who is a trump supporter is persuadable? I thought that ship would have sailed. 

Are you implying the tens of millions that voted or supported Trump are in any way a homogeneous group? 

[Blarg]

Everyone that voted for Hillary were gay. 

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, red321 said:

He doesn’t denounce them for a few reasons

1) he knows it’s his base

2) he subscribes to white grievance politics.

3) He is the Breitbart comment section. He is the Fox News watcher. He is your crazy uncle posting conspiracy theories about chem trails on Facebook. He is the infowars target demographic. He is the fwd: fwd: thread come to life. 

i know this.  im just pointing out what he ought to do if he's not supportive.