Trumped

[tennischmp]

4 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You do realize dead soldiers come home every week? You expected Trump to be on the tarmac saluting? 

 

Every week huh? Hyperbole much? 

[mtangelsfan]

32 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

the whole episode in Niger has been swept under the rug.

I kind of agree but by who really?

[Blarg]

Hey, quick quiz. Who put US troops in harm's way in Niger?

[UndertheHalo]

26 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

I kind of agree but by who really?

The media.  But let’s not kid ourselves.  The conservative talking heads would be screaming bloody murder if there was a Democrat in the White House.  The whole conservative military love is utter bullshit and their silence is another example of that.  

And there’s a pretty solid irony in Donald not showing up.  He’s the one saying that Obama and Bush didn’t call families.  Obama in particular apparently had contempt for the military the way Donald Trump says it

Theres nothing unfair about pointing this out. 

Edited October 17, 2017 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

31 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Hey, quick quiz. Who put US troops in harm's way in Niger?

So now we’re opposed to the “global war on terror” ? 

Before you try and pass it off on Obama and Hillary Clinton why don’t you point the finger squarely where it belongs at George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. 

Edited October 17, 2017 by UndertheHalo

[Adam]

I blame democracy and voters

[mtangelsfan]

5 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

So now we’re opposed to the “global war on terror” ? 

Before you try and pass it off on Obama and Hillary Clinton why don’t you point the finger squarely where it belongs at George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. 

I find all of them complicit.

[nate]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

Hey, quick quiz. Who put US troops in harm's way in Niger?

You know, I remember when we had a Chief of the military, some called him the Commander In Chief, and he could order the military to do things.

Guess we don't have one now.

Plus your MAGA butt buddy can't stop talking about ISIS, you are a fool if you think Trump hasn't been sending more.

Right, you probably do.

[Blarg]

9 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

So now we’re opposed to the “global war on terror” ? 

Before you try and pass it off on Obama and Hillary Clinton why don’t you point the finger squarely where it belongs at George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. 

Because they never dabled in Africa. But keep on passing the buck.

[tdawg87]

4 hours ago, calscuf said:

We could all scream "Niger!" like the Republicans scream "Benghazi!"

I don't think libs would ever scream the N word but idk

[Rico]

6 hours ago, calscuf said:

We could all scream "Niger!" like the Republicans scream "Benghazi!"

But Republicans already scream "Niger!"  This is going to confuse a lot of people.

[tdawg87]

33 minutes ago, Rico said:

But Republicans already scream "Niger!"  This is going to confuse a lot of people.

This one was better. 

[mtangelsfan]

McCain is getting "Mavericky" again

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/17/558247566/in-speech-sen-mccain-decries-half-baked-spurious-nationalism

 

[UndertheHalo]

5 hours ago, Blarg said:

Because they never dabled in Africa. But keep on passing the buck.

im not passing the buck Blarg.  are you serious ? We have troops in Niger for the same reason that we have troops in the Phillipines.  This is policy birthed in the Bush years and frankly its probably one of the better ones that they came up with to combat terrorism.  

[red321]

 

[Blarg]

We have had bases in the Philippines since 1900. That is nothing new and the current president of Philippines is hostile to the US because we are not supporting his anti drug genocide. We do not have troops deployed there only stationed.

 

[arch stanton]

The bases in the Philippines have been closed since the volcano erupted in 1991. There's a very limited advisory group in the country

[UndertheHalo]

32 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

The bases in the Philippines have been closed since the volcano erupted in 1991. There's a very limited advisory group in the country

as i understand it, they operate in a similar manner to the guys in Niger.  

Edited October 17, 2017 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

47 minutes ago, red321 said:

 

John Kelly's kid died in Afghanistan while Obama was president.  He should be forcefully setting his moron boss straight.  The decent thing to do would be resignation.  He cant be silent on this.  His integrity is on the line here.

Edited October 17, 2017 by UndertheHalo

[nate]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

We have had bases in the Philippines since 1900. That is nothing new and the current president of Philippines is hostile to the US because we are not supporting his anti drug genocide. We do not have troops deployed there only stationed.

 

Except when the President welcomed him to the White House

[UndertheHalo]

4 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

McCain is getting "Mavericky" again

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/17/558247566/in-speech-sen-mccain-decries-half-baked-spurious-nationalism

 

Trump is “threatening” McCain now.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/17/politics/trump-john-mccain-feud/index.html

[RallyMo]

2 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

John Kelly's kid died in Afghanistan while Obama was president.  He should be forcefully setting his moron boss straight.  The decent thing to do would be resignation.  He cant be silent on this.  His integrity is on the line here.

Wait, I thought that Obama didn't call Kelly. At least that's what I've been seeing.

[Glen]

3 hours ago, Blarg said:

We have had bases in the Philippines since 1900. That is nothing new and the current president of Philippines is hostile to the US because we are not supporting his anti drug genocide. We do not have troops deployed there only stationed.

 

As Arch said, we haven't had military bases in the PI in over a,quarter century. 

But anyway,  at what point does Trump assume full responsibility for military actions? Can you give us a timeline? 

[UndertheHalo]

28 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

Wait, I thought that Obama didn't call Kelly. At least that's what I've been seeing.

Obama’s aides are saying he absolutely did reach out. 

[RallyMo]

28 minutes ago, Glen said:

As Arch said, we haven't had military bases in the PI in over a,quarter century. 

But anyway,  at what point does Trump assume full responsibility for military actions? Can you give us a timeline? 

I think the timetable is the same for his supporters as it is for all supporters of a POTUS re military actions:

Those that are successful are his.

Those that aren't are owned by the previous POTUS, so long as that POTUS was not from the same party as the current one.