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44 minutes ago, Crampknees said:

Of course, someone's pecker is your go to again. Why don't you just spit it out and save yourself some time.

 

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You brought up Marco. I generally lay out the counter argument. At that point libs generally revert to aalinsky rules 2 and 13

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6 hours ago, Kotchman said:

You brought up Marco. I generally lay out the counter argument. At that point libs generally revert to aalinsky rules 2 and 13

You don't seem to be talking about the same kind of numbers that I'm talking about. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers were talking about. 

Trump/Kotchman 2024 - We know the numbers

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3 hours ago, Crampknees said:

You don't seem to be talking about the same kind of numbers that I'm talking about. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers were talking about. 

Trump/Kotchman 2024 - We know the numbers

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5 hours ago, Blarg said:

The United Nonsense should be concerned. They have solved zero problems and provide no security to any nation. 

Yes this is exactly what I would expect a Trump supporter to say. 

Trump says thing bad? Thing bad!

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Who the hell wants friends like China a Russia , Iran , and modern day Europeans. We’re pissing away American Tax dollars in Ukraine while the NATO pussies do nothing. The Europeans ain’t won a major war against or without Americans since our founding. 

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2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Yes this is exactly what I would expect a Trump supporter to say. 

Trump says thing bad? Thing bad!

This is exactly what a lib would say. It shows no defense of supporting the UN, just attacks those that don't. You are smarter than this, Toby.  

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25 minutes ago, Blarg said:

This is exactly what a lib would say. It shows no defense of supporting the UN, just attacks those that don't. You are smarter than this, Toby.  

He really isn’t. Modern day progressive liberalism isn’t easy to defend. It’s deeply rooted in Rules for radicals and their truths are whatever position is politically advantageous at the time. For this reason libs prefer singular debates. The whataboutisms annoy them because they don’t apply truths and standards to things like murder, equality, and freedoms. 
 

I’m amazed at how much influence Alinsky has on a group of people who’ve likely never read his books. 

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6 hours ago, Kotchman said:

He really isn’t. Modern day progressive liberalism isn’t easy to defend. It’s deeply rooted in Rules for radicals and their truths are whatever position is politically advantageous at the time. For this reason libs prefer singular debates. The whataboutisms annoy them because they don’t apply truths and standards to things like murder, equality, and freedoms. 
 

I’m amazed at how much influence Alinsky has on a group of people who’ve likely never read his books. 

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11 hours ago, Blarg said:

This is exactly what a lib would say. It shows no defense of supporting the UN, just attacks those that don't. You are smarter than this, Toby.  

Well I'm just interested in why you don't support the UN? 

I like that the UN gives a voice to all countries regardless of economic status or "perception". If you're an "enemy", you still get a voice on international issues. Whether your voice is actually heard is another matter. Also organizations like WHO and UNICEF are given a platform to request the support they need. UNICEF in particular has done a lot of great work.

It has a large role in the world's economy. For better or worse. 

Absolutely by no means is it perfect. Not even fucking close. But it's not surprising in any way to see people on the right shitting on it. 

 

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11 hours ago, Kotchman said:

The whataboutisms annoy them because they don’t apply truths and standards to things like murder, equality, and freedoms. 
 

I’m amazed at how much influence Alinsky has on a group of people who’ve likely never read his books. 

I'll ignore your other crap because I really am tiring of responding to you. You can call that a win because your intellect cannot simply be matched by progressive liberal Obama Mike penises. I really don't care.

The "whataboutisms" annoy me because it's a fallacious argument. You never address the issue or question, you simply deflect the attention of it in an effort to make the person making the comment look hypocritical. 

I've done it before. We all have. It's not something to be proud of because it's a terrible way to produce an argument. Oh and "truths and standards", give me a break.

Saul Alinsky? Not surprising to see that name coming from you. Newt Gingrich wouldn't stop talking about him and comparing him to Obama and his campaign. I think Breitbart came up with a conspiracy about Obama, which seeped into the mainstream. The "Socialism!" shit has been around for over a hundred years, but it picked up steam because of this nonsense. Now anyone left of whatever the fuck the right considers a "moderate" is a Commie. It's dumb. 

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1 hour ago, tdawg87 said:

I'll ignore your other crap because I really am tiring of responding to you. You can call that a win because your intellect cannot simply be matched by progressive liberal Obama Mike penises. I really don't care.

The "whataboutisms" annoy me because it's a fallacious argument. You never address the issue or question, you simply deflect the attention of it in an effort to make the person making the comment look hypocritical. 

I've done it before. We all have. It's not something to be proud of because it's a terrible way to produce an argument. Oh and "truths and standards", give me a break.

Saul Alinsky? Not surprising to see that name coming from you. Newt Gingrich wouldn't stop talking about him and comparing him to Obama and his campaign. I think Breitbart came up with a conspiracy about Obama, which seeped into the mainstream. The "Socialism!" shit has been around for over a hundred years, but it picked up steam because of this nonsense. Now anyone left of whatever the fuck the right considers a "moderate" is a Commie. It's dumb. 

The basic difference between progressive and conservative people is the willingness to accept truth as fact. Your truths are fluid and applied as needed on issues such as abortion, women, marriage, and welfare. You guys want to isolate the issues because your non sense can’t stand in fixated truths. I can simply define women , murder , stealing , idolatry, and sexual deviance. Libs simply modify their truth to fit the agenda. 

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2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Well I'm just interested in why you don't support the UN? 

The UN has done more to protect despots than remove them and that includes heads of 1st world countries. There is an international warrant for the arrest of Putin and yet he travels outside of his country untouched. They can't even exercise an arrest warrant with members of the participating UN nations defying their world court orders. 

Simply, they are a useless entity. 

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59 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

The basic difference between progressive and conservative people is the willingness to accept truth as fact. Your truths are fluid and applied as needed on issues such as abortion, women, marriage, and welfare. You guys want to isolate the issues because your non sense can’t stand in fixated truths. I can simply define women , murder , stealing , idolatry, and sexual deviance. Libs simply modify their truth to fit the agenda. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/conway-press-secretary-gave-alternative-facts-860142147643

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7 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The UN has done more to protect despots than remove them and that includes heads of 1st world countries. There is an international warrant for the arrest of Putin and yet he travels outside of his country untouched. They can't even exercise an arrest warrant with members of the participating UN nations defying their world court orders. 

Simply, they are a useless entity. 

The UN can't arrest anyone. The ICC issued the "warrant" but it's basically meaningless because there are 123 countries that are under ICC jurisdiction. Guess which ones aren't.

And how do you expect him to get arrested? Should the US go over there and do it? Good luck with that. 

You can't just detain the sitting President of a nation like Russia. The only way to get rid of Putin is to get rid of him. And that's likely going to cause a nuclear war. 

I want that POS dead, but I'm not sure his replacement is going to be any different. 

Does this make the UN "useless"? You know what, sure. But I think we have differing views on exactly what the UN does. If you want to include NATO in this discussion then maybe we'd get somewhere. 

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31 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

To be clear, I’m speaking about the issue not politicians. Our politicians are a reflection of our society which has lost the ability to accept truth and self discipline/ constraint. Most our problems are a direct result of people refusing traditional marriage and not following  truths like don’t steal, kill, and work for a living. Society is too busy making excuses for bad behavior. Too much time is being spent trying to avoid the consequences of bad behavior and laziness. 

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5 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

The UN can't arrest anyone. The ICC issued the "warrant" but it's basically meaningless because there are 123 countries that are under ICC jurisdiction. Guess which ones aren't.

And how do you expect him to get arrested? Should the US go over there and do it? Good luck with that. 

You can't just detain the sitting President of a nation like Russia. The only way to get rid of Putin is to get rid of him. And that's likely going to cause a nuclear war. 

I want that POS dead, but I'm not sure his replacement is going to be any different. 

Does this make the UN "useless"? You know what, sure. But I think we have differing views on exactly what the UN does. If you want to include NATO in this discussion then maybe we'd get somewhere. 

You’re taking a global citizen point of view. I’m for America following our Christian foundation and the world can join us or go to hell. 

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Latvia and Romania, two member countries of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), said Russian drones violated their airspace over the weekend in a move that could stoke boiling-hot tensions between Moscow and the military alliance.

Latvia’s government said Sunday a Russian drone had fallen over the east of the country the previous day, likely crossing in from Belarus.

Separately, on Sunday, Romania’s foreign ministry said "criminal" Russian airborne drones encroached on its airspace while targeting Ukraine’s civilian infrastructure.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russian-drones-violate-nato-airspace-latvia-romania

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I have a very good friend that is on an extended stay in Poland, about 6 miles from the border of Ukraine. They are staying with his wife's relatives and it is a little nervous times as drones, aircraft and missiles have violated the airspace of their border. 

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