Trumped

[Thomas]

Just now, Lawrence said:

Technology is a major factor but job loss due to illegal immigration began earlier than the digital revolution.

I took took technology all the way back to the industrial revolution.

[RallyMo]

28 minutes ago, Jay said:

so no difference?

 

Man.

Jayterz Gonna Jayt.

[Amazing Larry]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

I took took technology all the way back to the industrial revolution.

Oh snap. You're took tooking old skool. 

[Thomas]

 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, red321 said:

INO does a good job of maintaining their audio equipment...the Golden Ox down the street from me...friggen terrible.

You live in El Monte? 

[red321]

37 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You live in El Monte? 

apparently their entire chain of restaurants has shitty audio equipment

[Glen]

52 minutes ago, Lawrence said:

Technology is a major factor but job loss due to illegal immigration began earlier than the digital revolution.

https://youtu.be/clHwWa6MDxA

[AngelsLongBall]

2 hours ago, Thomas said:

Huh? Are you implying that immigration wasn't hot topic in the 19th century and immigrants used as scapegoats to mask loss of jobs due to changes in technology and indifference to the plight of the average worker because of massive collusion between all levels of government and corporate interests?

 

[Lou]

On January 2, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Adam said:

Colt is a smart dude. Seems bitter though. Some filly break your heart?

[Lou]

22 hours ago, Geoff said:

I'd rather throw money at highways and bridges.

And power grids.

And water supplies.

 

And protecting wine country.

and a bullpen 

[Lou]

4 hours ago, Blarg said:

You live in El Monte? 

That's Spanish for The  Monte

[the dude abides]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

That's Spanish for The  Monte

 

[gotbeer]

Democrats, seeking credit for House ethics reversal, watch it go to Trump

[Glen]

Nothing vindictive to see here, move along...

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-overhaul-top-intelligence-agencies-cia-dni-2017-1?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds

[Make Angels Great Again]

4 Chicago black people tied up and tortured a special needs white guy, torturing him and forcing him to say "Fuck white people" "Fuck Donald Trump." They kicked him around, made him stick his face in the toilet, cut his scalp down to his skull and used the wound as an ash tray. Just sickening stuff.

These assholes were stupid enough to stream it all on Facebook and were quickly apprehended. And yet police are saying it's not racially motivated.

http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/227116738-story

 

 

[Thomas]

2015:  Upon telling each side that the intelligence agencies are being curtailed in their power by the new POTUS.

Left: Jubilant
Right: Sound of balloon deflating

2017: 
Left: Much anger
Right: Confused

[Amazing Larry]

54 minutes ago, Glen said:

Nothing vindictive to see here, move along...

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-overhaul-top-intelligence-agencies-cia-dni-2017-1?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds

This makes me happy. Our intelligence agencies are bloated and need to be streamlined just like other areas of government.

[red321]

55 minutes ago, Thomas said:

2015:  Upon telling each side that the intelligence agencies are being curtailed in their power by the new POTUS.

Left: Jubilant
Right: Sound of balloon deflating

2017: 
Left: Much anger
Right: Confused

I'm not sure the concern..."from the left" is curtailing of the intelligence agencies, but more so the fact that Trump, Flynn and co. seem to engage in wild ass conspiracy theories and ignoring information that doesn't suit their preconceived notions...or worse yet don't even want to bother with information that might challenge their viewpoints.

It's like a giant Glenn Beck chalkboard or Breitbart/Reddit discussion thread come to life.

 

[Thomas]

59 minutes ago, red321 said:

I'm not sure the concern..."from the left" is curtailing of the intelligence agencies, but more so the fact that Trump, Flynn and co. seem to engage in wild ass conspiracy theories and ignoring information that doesn't suit their preconceived notions...or worse yet don't even want to bother with information that might challenge their viewpoints.

It's like a giant Glenn Beck chalkboard or Breitbart/Reddit discussion thread come to life.

 

You (again) give too much nuance to the mainstream of each side. The vast majority of each side simply supports whatever their side is currently supporting. It's clear the left is pasting together whatever intelligence they do have to delegitimize the 2016 election, at least morally,  and hoping it doesn't fall apart like a drunken Ikea assembly. While the right for similar political gain is waging a scorched earth on the intelligence process while simultaneously giving lip service that they love America and the intelligence community and hoping noone is really paying attention anyway.   The entire process is as transparent as me in yoga pants.

[red321]

funny...I was just thinking how you (again) find it easy to use a really broad brush and attribute group think to left and right while ignoring nuance...it's almost as if "both sides do it" is the groupthink of the so-called independents.

There is no doubt many on the left are looking to delegitimize the election of Trump, but to simply sluff off all discussion of the topic under that broad brush just helps to sweep away any legitimate discussion of a topic that should get a detailed investigation. I don't agree with McCain much, but I would agree with this sentiment...even if you were to take Russia out of the equation.

McCain said the purpose of reviewing Russia's involvement in election hacking is not to call into question the outcome of the presidential election. However, such a review, he said, is vital and necessary to democracy and free and fair elections.

"Every American should be alarmed by Russia's attacks on our nation. There is no national security interest more vital to the United States of America than the ability to hold free and fair elections without foreign interference,"McCain said in his opening statement. "That is why Congress must set partisanship aside, follow the facts, and work together to devise comprehensive solutions to deter, defend against, and, when necessary, respond to foreign cyberattacks."

[Make Angels Great Again]

Until they can show the American people beyond a shadow of a doubt Russia provided the e-mails to Wikileaks, Politicians need to shut the fuck up about it.

[Thomas]

11 minutes ago, red321 said:

funny...I was just thinking how you (again) find it easy to use a really broad brush and attribute group think to left and right while ignoring nuance...it's almost as if "both sides do it" is the groupthink of the so-called independents.

Of course both sides do it.  Group think is applicable to anything and everything. Game consoles. Operating systems. High-end Blenders. Cars. Sports teams. Fandoms. Religion.  It is applicable to basic human nature and not unique to politics.  Any significantly numbered group will fall into a predicable distribution of characteristics on the spectrum from unquestioning followers to complete skeptics.  But as you acknowledge my point in your very next sentence we move to...

 

27 minutes ago, red321 said:

Who, besides Trump's side, is advocating the absolute disregard of intelligence this situation? Skepticism of the conclusions and the process certainly doesn't equal this?  My professional life in reliant on focusing on the "cyber" battlefield. Do you have anything to add to the conversation that isn't um... binary?

[Make Angels Great Again]

To be clear, as a (obvious) viewpoint from the Trump supporting side I'm not saying unequivocally that Russia didn't do it. I'm saying I think there's a right way to handle this, and what everyone is doing is not right, far from it.

The government is essentially trying to track down who the origin source is of Wikileaks. Why jump straight to Russia with no concrete evidence? What does that accomplish? These intelligence agencies have been in a sense just telling us that Russia is capable of having done it. Of course they are, so are millions of other people and several different countries. The ones saying it was definitely Russia are just saying "trust us". Since when does everyone blindly trust what high level politicians have to say? Everyone seems to think it's a foregone conclusion that it was Russian involvement without the facts to back it up. I find that highly irresponsible.

[red321]

17 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Of course both sides do it.  Group think is applicable to anything and everything. Game consoles. Operating systems. High-end Blenders. Cars. Sports teams. Fandoms. Religion.  It is applicable to basic human nature and not unique to politics.  Any significantly numbered group will fall into a predicable distribution of characteristics on the spectrum from unquestioning followers to complete skeptics.  But as you acknowledge my point in your very next sentence we move to...

 

Who, besides Trump's side, is advocating the absolute disregard of intelligence this situation? Skepticism of the conclusions and the process certainly doesn't equal this?  My professional life in reliant on focusing on the "cyber" battlefield. Do you have anything to add to the conversation that isn't um... binary?

So, again, rather than attempting to understand or acknowledge, what some people from the left might be saying in regards to Trump's attacks on the intelligence community you appear to find it easier to just declare both sides do it...and then bemoan the fact that both sides do it.

You strawmanned your strawman?

[Thomas]

Just now, red321 said:

So, again, rather than attempting to understand or acknowledge, what some people from the left might be saying in regards to Trump's attacks on the intelligence community you appear to find it easier to just declare both sides do it...and then bemoan the fact that both sides do it.

You strawmanned your strawman?