Trumped

[Rico]

9 hours ago, Ordos said:

Sure hope it was a strong arm inducement, then, as opposed to a bribe to stay. Otherwise, I agree with this guy...

https://mobile.twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/803770794765651968?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

1300 jobs are still going to Mexico.  600 jobs from Carrier and 700 jobs from other UTEC businesses.  And they'll get 700k a year in tax breaks.

[Ordos]

25 minutes ago, Rico said:

1300 jobs are still going to Mexico.  600 jobs from Carrier and 700 jobs from other UTEC businesses.  And they'll get 700k a year in tax breaks.

Win?

[Amazing Larry]

Slap some tariffs on Mexico. Problem solved.

[Amazing Larry]

Oh and end NAFTA.

[Blarg]

57 minutes ago, Rico said:

1300 jobs are still going to Mexico.  600 jobs from Carrier and 700 jobs from other UTEC businesses.  And they'll get 700k a year in tax breaks.

That $700K comes out to $700 per employee that won't have to go on unemployment, hoping to find another job. Looks like Trump saved the state a ton of money in unemployment insurance, food stamps, subsidized Obamacare...

I wish Obama could have thought of this but he was too busy raising funds to put a criminal in the white house that supports NAFTA.

 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

1300 jobs are still going to Mexico.  600 jobs from Carrier and 700 jobs from other UTEC businesses.  And they'll get 700k a year in tax breaks.

where did you getting these figures? 

[Tank]

hi glen!

[Lou]

44 minutes ago, Blarg said:

That $700K comes out to $700 per employee that won't have to go on unemployment, hoping to find another job. Looks like Trump saved the state a ton of money in unemployment insurance, food stamps, subsidized Obamacare...

I wish Obama could have thought of this but he was too busy raising funds to put a criminal in the white house that supports NAFTA.

 

that's not fair.  Obama gave Carrier $5.1 million in stimulus cash in Dec 2013.  At that time, they stated they would use the money to “expand production at its Indianapolis facility to meet increasing demand for its eco-friendly condensing gas furnace product line.”

Fourteen months later they announced they were moving 1,400 jobs to Mexico...

and Obama did nothing. 

the lib outrage here was incredible 

Edited December 1, 2016 by Lou

[Brandon]

On 11/29/2016 at 6:40 PM, the dude abides said:

What if instead of burning a flag, I purchase a pair of American flag underwear and intentionally shit myself while wearing them?  What if I don't fully shit myself but leave a giant skid mark.

You can see how this becomes a slippery slope.

then i would think you would have had a great night of drinking guinness and jagermeister

[arch stanton]

20 minutes ago, Lou said:

that's not fair.  Obama gave Carrier $5.1 million in stimulus cash in Dec 2013.  At that time, they stated they would use the money to “expand production at its Indianapolis facility to meet increasing demand for its eco-friendly condensing gas furnace product line.”

Fourteen months later they announced they were moving 1,400 jobs to Mexico...

and Obama did nothing. 

the lib outrage here was incredible 

To be fair, he and the several administrations before him have tried to do the only thing they can do to keep manufacturing in the US. That's allow illegal immigration to create a class of non-citizens that can be used as dirt cheap labor without all the inconvenience of giving them rights. It's the big edge these other countries have on us. The Europeans are trying to do this now with African and middle Eastern migrants but they're going to get a rude awakening when they find that there's no work ethic among these groups.

[Ordos]

Perhaps the Europeans can import some Mexicans, if they're no longer welcome here.

[InsideThePark]

13 hours ago, Jay said:

It won't be enough.

 

Many on the right aren't comfortable with it either. As it stands now, the conflict of interest is undeniable.

Yeah, I know... Clinton Foundation.

[Blarg]

5 hours ago, Lou said:

that's not fair.  Obama gave Carrier $5.1 million in stimulus cash in Dec 2013.  At that time, they stated they would use the money to “expand production at its Indianapolis facility to meet increasing demand for its eco-friendly condensing gas furnace product line.”

Fourteen months later they announced they were moving 1,400 jobs to Mexico...

and Obama did nothing. 

the lib outrage here was incredible 

This is what confuses me, how Trump can save 1,000 jobs for a $700K tax break but the liberals bitch and moan without ever addressing what the economic impact 1,000 jobless Americans would cost society.

Meanwhile Obama burned enough cash to cause a carbon tax, floating a half billion dollars into Solyndra that went belly up, dropping billions into the auto industry and not a damn thing has changed in their production of gas eaters, in fact they are producing more high performance gas guzzlers than ever before, then gives his college buddy the ACA contract that was doled out to a Canadian company that they had to fire for incompetence and cost overages, meanwhile his secretary of state is running a Pay to Play scheme with her foundation but... but... but... Trump.

Always the liberals bad guy even though he is getting stuff done while on what should be his last vacation before taking over for the the Fundraiser in Chief. If only the actual sitting President wasn't sitting on his ass all the time and getting jobbed every time he makes a decision, this country might have been in good enough shape that such a terrible candidate like Trump couldn't have gotten through the primaries.

Thank you Obama for your generous donation to the MAGA campaign.

 

[Rico]

Today companies that weren't even thinking of offshoring jobs will re-evaluate their stance.  

[Blarg]

You base this on what, Rico?

[Stradling]

Based on something Trump helped with obviously has to be bad in the long run.  

[red321]

In general I don't think this is a bad thing. It will be interesting to see what concessions were made on the part of the state and local governments, I'm guessing tax incentives and the like. A big driver of this was Carrier is part of a larger company, UTC, which is a defense supplier, and they had a lot of concerns about federal defense related contracts. I think it's absolutely appropriate to hold that threat over these companies who make a living doing business with the federal government that business needs to be kept onshore.

[mtangelsfan]

I'm not a fan of too many tax breaks, but I agree with red that holding the defense business over their heads is good.

I think most Americans are tired of corporate welfare.

[Make Angels Great Again]

I thought this was funny considering the Bernie supporter hate.

[red321]

I thought this was funny considering there are Trump supporters

[red321]

*sigh*...we are so fucked

[Ordos]

25 minutes ago, red321 said:

*sigh*...we are so fucked

Those people are as retarded as anyone who thinks all Trump supporters are racist.

[Make Angels Great Again]

4 hours ago, red321 said:

I thought this was funny considering there are Trump supporters

This is pretty funny too.

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-obama-mocks-trump-promising-keep-carrier-plant-us

[Brandon]

what trips me out post election is people really seem to spend a great deal of time, energy, or focus on random dumb people from whichever party they despise like it's a new phenomenon that dumb people exist or that dumb people do dumb things.

it's like an arms race to see which side has more dumb people.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

12 hours ago, Taggart said:

what trips me out post election is people really seem to spend a great deal of time, energy, or focus on random dumb people from whichever party they despise like it's a new phenomenon that dumb people exist or that dumb people do dumb things.

it's like an arms race to see which side has more dumb people.

The problem is that there is no clear winner.