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[Jay]

Democrats should continue to tell us that ISIS is not a threat.

I think that's a good strategy for them, don't you?

 

[Brandon]

i'll be honest, i wonder how much shit has been thwarted or stopped that we don't even know about.

i'm not going to worry about it or let it ruin my day, but i do think there is a legit concern. shit man, look at 9/11. a regular day turned into chaos that the country will never forget.

[Lou]

if we should only concern ourselves with what happens on US soil, why then does it matter if Trump pisses off foreign leaders? I mean, it's not like they're going to attack us. 

Edited November 23, 2016 by Lou

[Make Angels Great Again]

I read yesterday that a plot was foiled in NYC that was being planned similar to the Paris attacks.

[ABC]

19 minutes ago, Taggart said:

i'll be honest, i wonder how much shit has been thwarted or stopped that we don't even know about.

i'm not going to worry about it or let it ruin my day, but i do think there is a legit concern. shit man, look at 9/11. a regular day turned into chaos that the country will never forget.

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Spot on. If you're walking around worried that some bearded or bald religious terrorist is going to wreck your day then you probably need some anti-anxiety treatment. Obviously it is very important to have protection against terrorism. Everyone wants safeguards.

All it takes is a dirty bomb in a major city and the terrorism death numbers skyrocket again as it did on 9/11. The reality is that you need to watch out for people texting and driving. Unless you see your neighbor building a bomb, we gots others to fight terrorism. 

[Lou]

Terrorist incidents in United States ^[1][2]

Year	Number of incidents	Deaths	Injuries
2015	38	44	52
2014	26	19	6
2013	19	22	422
2012	17	7	6
2011	10	0	2
2010	17	4	17
2009	10	18	41
2008	18	2	13
2007	9	0	0
2006	6	1	14
2005	20	0	0
2004	9	0	0
2003	32	0	0
2002	33	4	4

 

Have at it, Libs

[ABC]

Holy shit, that is more insignificant than I thought.

[Make Angels Great Again]

What the hell happened in 2013 to injure 422 people? Memory no work gud.

[ABC]

53 minutes ago, Jay said:

Democrats should continue to tell us that ISIS is not a threat.

I think that's a good strategy for them, don't you?

 

 

Take your blinders off: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/opinions/orlando-homegrown-terror-bergen/

[Rico]

58 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

What the hell happened in 2013 to injure 422 people? Memory no work gud.

Boston Marathon I believe.

[Jay]

2 hours ago, #CF8 said:

Take your blinders off: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/opinions/orlando-homegrown-terror-bergen/

ok, bubble boy.

 

[ABC]

5 hours ago, Jay said:

ok, bubble boy.

 

 

inside the bubble: "only republicans think isis is a threat."

lol.

[Tank]

One of my high school friends was in the building when the san berdoo attack happened. One of Victors friends was killed in the attack.

we like to think we're fairly well insulated here, but there's no telling where the next attack will happen. We've also learned that anywhere can be targeted as we've found out that Isis sympathizers are scattered among us and are willing to go to extreme measures, as we've seen several times. I don't live in fear of them but I'm very aware that of the need to be observant. I think it behooves all of us to pay attention and not be dismissive of the idea that an attack can happen to anyone of us anytime anywhere.

[Brandon]

if an attack can happen in san bernardino, of all places, it can happen anywhere.

as mentioned, my ex interviewed in that building and turned the gig down, but it was on her short list. same building and same company party would have been her and the story could have been completely different.

but not even islamic terrorists, what about these crackers running up into movie theaters with automatic weapons? that's terrorism too but the media never mentions it....if they are white it's mental illness, if they are from the middle east it's terrorism.

shit can pop off at any minute. i don't think about it, but am cognizant that i can turn on the news and hear about some deadly attack. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

16 minutes ago, Tank said:

One of my high school friends was in the building when the san berdoo attack happened. One of Victors friends was killed in the attack.

we like to think we're fairly well insulated here, but there's no telling where the next attack will happen. We've also learned that anywhere can be targeted as we've found out that Isis sympathizers are scattered among us and are willing to go to extreme measures, as we've seen several times. I don't live in fear of them but I'm very aware that of the need to be observant. I think it behooves all of us to pay attention and not be dismissive of the idea that an attack can happen to anyone of us anytime anywhere.

I can tell you that the number of potential bad guys (as in people who have been identified as at minimum researching attacks and have had contact with bad guys overseas) is far greater than rhe number of feds they have to sureil them...we had some homeland security guys come out and give us a brief earlier this year on it, and they had some grim stats.

I imagine most of the guys theyre watching will eventually get lazy and give up their plans, but if even 1 or 2 with thhem go forward....

 

[InsideThePark]

So now Trump doesn't think climate change is a hoax lol. I doubt anyone knows what that man truly believes.

[Lou]

lol Hillary lost to Trump. 

that still cracks me up. 

[Jay]

On the conflict of interest thing, I can see both sides of the argument.

On one hand, why should people have to sell their business if they decide to run for president? The presidency is only 8 years max, maybe the person would like to return to his/her business after serving as president.

On the other hand, with every move the President makes questions will be raised about whether he/she personally benefited. So there's a perception of conflict even if there isn't any.

Trump is correct that the President, Vice President, and members of Congress are exempt from conflict of interest law.

However his opponents and the media won't be satisfied until the entire business is divested and placed into a blind trust. I don't see how that can happen before he takes office.

 

[Glen]

I remember when the Republicans made Jimmy Carter sell his peanut farm because it was a conflict of interest.

[arch stanton]

At this point in history being president is an all-encompassing job. Should he also be trying to run multiple businesses at the same time?

[Jay]

It's one thing to sell a peanut farm it's another to sell Trump's international real estate holdings.

Even if he puts his business into someone else's hands he'll still be aware of the assets so he'll still be accused of having a conflict.

It would take years to sell everything and he probably has no intention of doing that anyway.

So this will be a huge source of noise from Democrats and the left, for the duration of his presidency.

 

[arch stanton]

So the trade off for having a non-politician is that we get someone who quite likely has large business dealings, many of them involving foreign governments, riding on every action he makes. I'm not willing to concede that one is better than the other just yet.

[Spirit]

I remember when Carter put his peanut farm into a blind trust and it was mismanaged by the trustees.  When he went back to it after his presidency, he was like  a million dollars in debt.

 

 

[the dude abides]

22 hours ago, #CF8 said:

Tell that to the people killed by furniture.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/11/23/youre-more-likely-to-be-fatally-crushed-by-furniture-than-killed-by-a-terrorist/

Time for Murica to liberate Ethan Allen.

 

[Jason]

32 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

So the trade off for having a non-politician is that we get someone who quite likely has large business dealings, many of them involving foreign governments, riding on every action he makes. I'm not willing to concede that one is better than the other just yet.

One of the reasons I didn't vote for Trump is because I don't trust him to set policies that don't help his business interests. If it helps all business then fine but I'm not convinced. It will happen and it is going to be a problem.