Trumped

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, Jay said:

I want this guy's life if his biggest concern is pot legalization.

 

Marijuana is a litmus test of sorts. If Trump goes after it, then what's stopping him from going after any of the other things he supported in his campaign? His campaign was rooted on the idea of not being beholden to the federal government: he emphasized the notion of a government for the people and by the people as outlined in our Constitution––and the people voted to legalize marijuana in several states. 

 

I have intestinal issues that are only relieved by marijuana, and it helped me curb my alcohol addiction. If you want my life you can have it

[Brandon]

you don't have to worry

[Adam]

lol Taggart. Just noticed. 

[Jay]

No thanks bro... but don't we already have marijuana for medicinal purposes?

In any case I don't think Marijuana will be high on the list for the new AG. Although Trump is famously drug and alcohol-free because his older brother died of alcoholism.

 

[Brandon]

1 minute ago, Adam said:

lol Taggart. Just noticed. 

gotta stay on point homie. you never know when i'm going to the time machine.

[Adam]

He ain't poontang free!

[Guest]

Yeah, but Bush went after medical marijuana.

[Adam]

Republicans would be well served to waive the white flag when it comes to the culture war

[Jay]

Just now, Adam said:

He ain't poontang free!

um... yeah. Clearly.

 

[Brandon]

i think if anyone goes after marijuana that is already in play is committing political suicide.

too much science and proof of medicinal uses and it's turned the corner as being something people are open to and voting directly for. when you start undermining a large portion of societies right to vote for these issues and just wipe them out after the fact, it's a big no-no. 

[Glen]

33 minutes ago, Taggart said:

all three of them?

ps. a lot of those hardcore republicans don't even post here anymore. so your graph (and yes, i picture you literally making one) is going to be greatly skewed.

 

I was talking about people in general, not just on this board. Perhaps I should have mentioned that.

[Make Angels Great Again]

You do know that to be a "nationalist" is to be proud of your country, right?

[red321]

41 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

You do know that to be a "nationalist" is to be proud of your country, right?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalism

 

Simple Definition of nationalism

• : a feeling that people have of being loyal to and proud of their country often with the belief that it is better and more important than other countries

• : a desire by a large group of people (such as people who share the same culture, history, language, etc.) to form a separate and independent nation of their own

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

So you think he went through a process of dragging his reputation and name through the dirt just so he could say he won?

LOL at making him out to be some kind of martyr.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Paul said:

Marijuana is a litmus test of sorts. If Trump goes after it, then what's stopping him from going after any of the other things he supported in his campaign? His campaign was rooted on the idea of not being beholden to the federal government

It was? His campaign was rooted in "Make America great again," hearkening back to some imaginary time when America was a wonderful place and everything was rainbows and lollipops for white people.  I haven't heard any Trump supporters say anything about the federal government or states' rights outside of this board.

[red321]

15 minutes ago, cezero said:

Odds or me trying to talk about the historical context of the word "nationalism" with somebody who clearly doesn't like reading books? 0%.

Nationalism and patriotism are not automatically synonymous. 

You just hate America

[mtangelsfan]

13 minutes ago, Taylor said:

It was? His campaign was rooted in "Make America great again," hearkening back to some imaginary time when America was a wonderful place and everything was rainbows and lollipops for white people.  I haven't heard any Trump supporters say anything about the federal government or states' rights outside of this board.

How many times was it something they were even asked about?  Isn't it possible that many believe that but that really isn't what the media wanted to concentrate on?

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, Taylor said:

It was? His campaign was rooted in "Make America great again," hearkening back to some imaginary time when America was a wonderful place and everything was rainbows and lollipops for white people.  I haven't heard any Trump supporters say anything about the federal government or states' rights outside of this board.

I followed his campaign pretty closely and he constantly brought up the importance of states' rights. This is a common quote of his regarding key social issues:

 "I believe it should be states' rights and I think the states should make the decision, they're more capable of making the decision," Trump said.

 

Also, he always talks about giving the government back to the people: a central theme in his populist campaign.

[red321]

I don't think Trump gives two shits about states' right, just like I don't think most of the Republican party does unless Democrats are in power at the federal level. The same can be said for local control of issues on the state level. Great example is fracking where Republican controlled legislatures create state based legislation to overrule local ordinances.

In that vein...I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of federal law proposed to open up fracking, reducing a state's ability to pass environmental regulations, states concealed carry reciprocity, etc.

It should be noted...I also expect to see Democrats start chiming in about states' rights a lot more than they have in the past.

[Make Angels Great Again]

51 minutes ago, Taylor said:

LOL at making him out to be some kind of martyr.

 

So everyone always thought of Trump as a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobe who hates Muslims before he ran, right? I'm sure you must have.

[Make Angels Great Again]

51 minutes ago, cezero said:

Odds or me trying to talk about the historical context of the word "nationalism" with somebody who clearly doesn't like reading books? 0%.

Nationalism and patriotism are not automatically synonymous. 

Probably the same odds of talking to a lib on here without being called an idiot.

[mtangelsfan]

Honestly, the Constitution is pretty clear.  The feds are limited to only what the Constitution gives them authority over.  As much as I am for being energy self sufficient I would back a state's right to limit or even eliminate fossil fuel production.

Of course I would also back states that don't have that limitation charging more for their resources if they wished.

[red321]

5 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Probably the same odds of talking to a lib on here without being called an idiot.

Don't sell yourself short...

[Tank]

10 hours ago, Paul said:

He's the Attorney General. He can direct the DEA to bust dispensaries and he can sue states for defying federal law.

This will end up in the SCOTUS as a case challenging whether state laws can override federal laws. And it'll probably lose.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Tank said:

This will end up in the SCOTUS as a case challenging whether state laws can override federal laws. And it'll probably lose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause 

State laws cannot override federal laws unless they explicitly declare that the federal law is invalid. The current marijuana laws do not explicitly invalidate the federal law. So, it's up to the President and the Attorney General to decide whether or not to prosecute States for defying federal law.

I think Trump will keep his word, though. If he doesn't, then a state could theoretically nullify the federal law prohibiting marijuana (or whatever) and then challenge it via the supreme court. That's probably not going to happen, though.

Either way, my biggest concern right now is ISIS and terrorism.