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1 hour ago, cezero said:

i can understand disdain for clinton, but voting from trump because of that is privileged behavior, pure and simple. 

voting for trump or another candidate to get even with people on social media saying things you don't like is even worse. you're a child if that factored into your decision at all. grow the fuck up. 

if you think it was a mistake to elect trump, the blame goes squarely to those who voted for him for whatever reason, including the ones listed above. blaming liberals is beyond stupid. 

 

 

You know, everyone is pretty fed up with the deplorables lecture. You wanted that insidious lying bitch as a president, okay that was your choice. Others chose what you consider "privileged behavior" when in fact the "privileged" snobs where the ones all fawning over Hillary. It was her making the separation between the college educated and the blue collars that set the tone for who thought their shit didn't stink. The Rust belt voted for their jobs. If you weren't a snobbish teacher of AP classes and had a manufacturing job in Ohio you would have voted Trump as well. But you seem to have some air of superiority just because you don't get grease on your hands at work. You should grow the fuck up.

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7 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

You'll find a way to blame Hillary for that. I believe in you.

Because Hillary clearly purposely threw the election to Trump. Trump will either directly or through more subtle communication channels (Twitter) have OJ pardoned to increase his support with "those people".<insert RDJr meme here>

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1 hour ago, Thomas said:

To be fair Cat killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Rob Goldman and framed OJ for "the lulz"

In hindsight I wouldn't have done it if I realized it was going to ruin summer television.  I spent plenty of time outside but I still liked watching TV and the case was on or being discussed on most channels.  At least our 7th grade teacher let us watch the verdict in class at which point you either cheered or booed and at that age your opinion on the subject came from your parents. 

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3 hours ago, Blarg said:

Let me ask you something,  since you are obviously on the left and would probably be characterized as a social liberal politically. That would mean you would support the more down trodden in society and try to lift them up, improve their situation and help them be productive instead of dependent on government handouts. Basic needs,  a good job, a home, good schools, etc... 

Now tell just what NAFTA and TPC does for those people, outsourcing their jobs to third world countries? Because that is what your candidate represented,  more poverty, shutting the blue collar worker out of any stable manufacturing industry. 

So instead of being a champion of the people you really were being selfish about your own income inequality, living a life that 2/3 of America can't  join in on. That's not being a social liberal,  that is a cutthroat capitalist.

Somewhere you lost your ethical compassion following a party going down a road you were sure you weren't going to take 

LOL

You make a lot of assumptions about what you think I believe in.

While I would identify as liberal I've been an Independent my entire voting life.

I did not vote for Hillary. (Most of the reasons were for policy differences I had with her, not the bull shit made up reasons cons like you hate her for)

I wrote in Joe Biden.

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2 hours ago, cezero said:

i can understand disdain for clinton, but voting from trump because of that is privileged behavior, pure and simple. 

You keep calling Trump voters 'privileged' - a true dem buzz word - you could cut through the condescension with a knife. With phrases like this the left may never win back those who switched sides this election.

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19 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

Go to hell. This nation would have crumbled far earlier without "The Naked Gun" series.

Leslie Nielson was an artistic genius. OJ could have been replaced with a milk carton with his face on it. 

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2 hours ago, Thomas said:

Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania. Which of these states does Trump beat Sanders in?

All of them because:

1. Bernie's not a Democrat he's a Independent Socialist.

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2. Trump and the Republicans would have loved to have painted him as a communist..game over.

Trump beats Bernie easily

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9 minutes ago, Angels#1Fan said:

All of them because:

1. Bernie's not a Democrat he's a Independent Socialist.

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2. Trump and the Republicans would have loved to have painted him as a communist..game over.

Trump beats Bernie easily

That's funny the polling never supported that in the general or especially in the iron belt states. And the polling was before Hillary's email nightmare. The polling consistently showed Bernie beating Trump by greater margins than Hillary. It kept his Quixotic nomination campaign going well past mathematical elimination.  The economic leaning left wouldn't have stayed home because they were indifferent between Trump and Clinton and Trump's attacks on Hillary for being a stooge of Goldman Sachs would have been pointless on Bernie. How would Trump's populist argument worked against Bernie? Is your argument that the average white factory worker that voted for Obama but chose Trump over Hillary would have also picked Trump over Bernie? That's a pretty big claim.  Against a normal candidate Bernie would have been vulnerable but all he had to do was beat Trump. Something even H. Clinton almost did. I'm sure you have something to back up your assertions, right?

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37 minutes ago, cezero said:

trump voters have no accountability because liberals made them do it. 

Holy crap, cez. Did you just accuse the cons of having no accountability? 

Just curious, but did you ever hear the story about the Pot and the African-American kettle? 

 

37 minutes ago, cezero said:

what an incredible way of looking at the world. entitled. aloof. stupid. 

A perfect description of the libs during and after this election cycle. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Thomas said:

I'm sure you have something to back up your assertions, right?

It's purely conjecture on both of our parts because Bernie didn't win the nomination, and whether you agree or not with me, my opinion is just as valid as yours is.

Are you of the opinion that Trump would not have hammered Bernie with the commie label? Trump would have come up with several nasty things to call Bernie because he wasn't capable of debating any issues with him. You know like, Bernie is un-American simply by virtue of him being a Socialist etc or he might call him Chairman Sanders.  After all, many people are ignorant enough to equate Socialist with Communist and Trump would have buried him with Mao, Stalin, Castro, or any other Communist he could think of. lol Most importantly Bernie isn't a Democrat and that makes a difference to a lot of people and that simply would have given many Democrats not one but two reasons not to vote for him. So those Democrats probably wouldn't have voted for him making it that much easier for Trump. Trump would have trounced Bernie and proclaimed that he should be deported to Russia with the rest of the commies. 

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2 minutes ago, Angels#1Fan said:

It's purely conjecture on both of our parts because Bernie didn't win the nomination, and whether you agree or not with me, my opinion is just as valid as yours is.

Are you of the opinion that Trump would not have hammered Bernie with the commie label? Trump would have come up with several nasty things to call Bernie because he wasn't capable of debating any issues with him. You know like, Bernie is un-American simply by virtue of him being a Socialist etc or he might call him Chairman Sanders.  After all, many people are ignorant enough to equate Socialist with Communist and Trump would have buried him with Mao, Stalin, Castro, or any other Communist he could think of. lol Most importantly Bernie isn't a Democrat and that makes a difference to a lot of people and that simply would have given many Democrats not one but two reasons not to vote for him. So those Democrats probably wouldn't have voted for him making it that much easier for Trump. Trump would have trounced Bernie and proclaimed that he should be deported to Russia with the rest of the commies. 

You could have just said you know, "no I don't have any backing data unlike you who did".  I understand. That is the difference between our two "equal" opinions.

We can in hindsight look at the polls it reveals an unpleasant truth. H. Clinton lost because of the white vote. Guess who did better with that demographic? But in the general anyone of color would still be repulsed by Trump, rightly so, and would have voted Democrat regardless but if the left only got a little more of the white vote...

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-democrats-race-racial-divide-213948

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-is-winning-the-states-that-look-like-the-democratic-party/

Of course not having horrific approval ratings might have helped to. And she STILL nearly won.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/31/a-record-number-of-americans-now-dislike-hillary-clinton/?utm_term=.2bc977cffdaa

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