Trumped

[Tank]

assumptions: all republican candidates are white, and most democratic candidates are not.

[Adam]

Oh man this is so good

 

 

[Lou]

Ha

loved the "Communism is Good in Theory" sign 

[Jason]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-endorses-us-house-prison-reform-bill-2018-11

 

[failos]

Edited November 16, 2018 by failos

[yk9001]

Trump doing a lot of winning for his party.

 

[Jason]

8 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

Trump doing a lot of winning for his party.

 

In all fairness that’s part of California. Nothing Trump or any other person can do for conservatives in this state

[UndertheHalo]

I think that Adam is probably right that the GOP will get to split the OC if the Dems take back the White House in 2020.  It’s never going to be a GOP territory like it use to be tho. 

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

On the news feed on my phone a few days ago there was an article that quoted Karl Rove that discussed this: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/12/politics/karl-rove-republicans-2018/index.html

It even references Bush and how they were warning republicans back in 2000. Now you’ve got a compete tool in the White House who has done the impossible and made the party even more of the old stuffy white guy party.  Add in the fact that they can no longer claim to be the fiscally reaponsible party and it’s an even harder sell. Aside from the strength of the economy which is never due to one president or party there’s really nothing that comes to mind Trump is doing that I would call a win. Obviously he could name a thousand things but his own party knows it’s BS and some are trying to distance themselves.

I’ll be curious to see what strides if any both sides make by 2020.  Do the fringe elements on both sides get louder or do we see some moderate candidates with legit chances? I’m hoping for the latter but given the divide I don’t expect it. 

[yk9001]

49 minutes ago, Jason said:

Nothing Trump or any other person can do for conservatives in this state

Yeah, nothing.  Absolutely positively nothing.

Except stop villifying brown people, many who come from "shithole" countries, as trump calls them.

Maybe don't call mexicans "drug dealers, criminals and rapists".

Maybe not call brown people "animals".

 

Yeah.  ZERO Trump could have done.

[yk9001]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Lou]

no other president has done those things and CA was still a lib wasteland

[Amazing Larry]

Can't wait until this state goes BK. I'll have to pick a good spot on a hill to watch the glow from the riots.

[yk9001]

California didn't turn this election.  OC did.

 

So much winning by Trump.

[yk9001]

I wish the state would declare BK tomorrow.  The Calpers Riots, with all the retired firemen, would be hilarious to watch.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

They’re more likely to have RVs, trailers and desert toys which suits them to a Mad Max like environment when the shit hits the fan.  

Edge - Calpers members. 

[yk9001]

1 minute ago, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

They’re more likely to have RVs, trailers and desert toys which suits them to a Mad Max like environment when the shit hits the fan.  

Edge - Calpers members. 

Yeah, they wouldn't be able to riot anyways.  They're all on...... "disability"......... (suppress giggle).... when they retire, for that extra kicker.

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

In all fairness that’s part of California. Nothing Trump or any other person can do for conservatives in this state

You don't think that Trump has turned off a lot of long-term Republicans? OC voted for Hillary in the 2016 election.

[mtangelsfan]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

You don't think that Trump has turned off a lot of long-term Republicans? OC voted for Hillary in the 2016 election.

You are assuming that it is Republicans voting Democrat.  

My guess is that Republicans are simply leaving California.

[Taylor]

3 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

You are assuming that it is Republicans voting Democrat.  

My guess is that Republicans are simply leaving California.

I think it's a mix of:
• Former Republican faithful voting Democrat.
• Republicans moving out of state.
• Former Republican faithful not voting, because they're not happy with the current state of the party.

[yk9001]

18 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

My guess is that Republicans are simply leaving California.

Really?  Any data to back that up, other than anecdotal?

Not looking for a texas death match argument, just wondering.

[Jason]

25 minutes ago, Taylor said:

I think it's a mix of:
• Former Republican faithful voting Democrat.
• Republicans moving out of state.
• Former Republican faithful not voting, because they're not happy with the current state of the party.

You also forgot that Californians love to pay high taxes and unaffordable housing. They know that if the Dems stay in power more taxes are on the way. It’s a no brainer to vote for the Dems. 

[mtangelsfan]

11 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

Really?  Any data to back that up, other than anecdotal?

Not looking for a texas death match argument, just wondering.

It is anecdotal.  I just assume that OC republicans would never, ever vote for Hillary and since she won the OC, then that would be my guess.  (Which is why I said guess)  

No death match needed.

[Taylor]

I'm not that old, but when I moved back to OC last year, almost everyone I knew growing up still lives here, including a lot of the hardcore Republican types.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

According to https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/ror/ror-pages/15day-gen-16/hist-reg-stats.pdf the number of registered Republicans in CA has been on a steady decline for at least the last 20 years. That said there’s an increase in no party preference so who knows how that shakes out. This http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-pol-ca-orange-county-primary-2018/ discusses the decline since the 90s based on OC voting results.