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5 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Kanye West is a guy that we’re going to hear about on the news having killed himself.  Listen to him talk.  That man is unwell. 

nah, i'm seeing kanye and rocket man getting invited to the white house for thanksgiving this year.

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52 minutes ago, Lou said:

holy crap! you're still awake?

i figured I'd have to wait until tomorrow to get a reply from you 

The meat loaf was bad at the early bird but I couldn't gum the pot roast. 

If I can stay awake long enough to watch UCLA play football there is no telling what I can accomplish.  

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24 minutes ago, nate said:

Ford, as American as a company can be

Well that's a depressing thought if they are as American as a company can actually be.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/31/17805604/ford-focus-trump-china-tariff-mustang

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Even if the trade war with China relaxes, Ford says it won’t change course, since it only expected sales of around 50,000 per year anyway. The company still plans to import vehicles it builds in other countries, like the EcoSport SUV (which is made in India).

In 2017, Ford decided to build the new Focus in China after it abandoned plans to move the production of the car from Michigan to Mexico. The Mexico assembly plant had been publicly criticized by Trump, who was still not sworn into office at the time. But instead of acquiescing to pressure from the president-elect and keeping production in the US, Ford decided to build the Focus in China — a decision that reportedly saved the company around $1 billion. The Focus Active will still be sold in other parts of the world, Ford says.

Politically speaking, I think Trump can spin the tariffs as punishing Ford for producing cars in other countries. You don't think that will play well the moderate factory workers in the iron belt?  The ones who don't usually have nuanced opinions when it comes to their livelihoods?

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26 minutes ago, nate said:

Ford, as American as a company can be is going to lay off between 10 and 12k people because of a $1bn cost incurred by tariffs... dipshit in chief really nailed this one.

Only gets worse from here.

Again Nate.  When your bonds are one step above junk status.  It's not the tariffs that are causing it's downfall.  Every car maker in the US is facing the same tariffs.  And yet only Ford is laying off people.  This is a Ford problem, not a Trump problem.  

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Surreal moment of the year:

Kanye West is live right now in the Oval Office. He's sitting there opposite Trump at the desk and spoke extemporaneously for ten minutes (and rather eloquently) about a range of issues. Trump listened intently, then the first thing he says after Kanye is finished is:

"Kanye, you're in the Oval Office. How does it feel?"

 

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Kanye wearing his MAGA hat hugging Trump right now: "I love you, man."

Just for the lulz, I've got MSNBC on and they're ready to burst a blood vessel.

"If you're looking for a play-by-play of what you just saw, you won't get it here. This was an assault on the White House."

"I'm just stunned across the board."

Losers.

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17 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Again Nate.  When your bonds are one step above junk status.  It's not the tariffs that are causing it's downfall.  Every car maker in the US is facing the same tariffs.  And yet only Ford is laying off people.  This is a Ford problem, not a Trump problem.  

Lol, ok.

Ford is just the first one to announce it.  Having $1bn in tariffs added to their bill is irreversible.

As mentioned in other articles, Ford already bought 98% of its steel domestically but the lack of competition in the market has led US companies to increase their prices. 

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1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

If cursing is a problem I feel like lady liberty had a tough time during the Johnson administration.  

Hah. That was the first person I thought of when thinking of the most likely Pres to use that word. Probably didn't get any better with Nixon. I'd pay money to hear Carter use that word.

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"At a time when automakers are scrambling to prepare for self-driving cars, Ford is also struggling to keep pace with the rest of the industry. September was a bad month for U.S. auto sales—with aggregate sales down 7%—but Ford’s drop off was even more severe. Ford said its sales of its vehicles declined 11.2% last month, with sales of its best-selling F-Series pickup trucks down 9%.

Ford has not responded to Fortune’s request for comment."

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