Trumped

[Tank]

On 10/13/2017 at 8:36 PM, nate said:

Religion is a vessel for people to act superior and create conflict.

there are certainly people that make this a true statement, whether fanatics in the middle east or fanatics in the bible belt, but the vast majority of religious people i've encountered throughout my life are the exact opposite of what you think is true for all.

i'm sorry that you feel this way about all people who are religious.

[Tank]

9 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

Man you like talking about men's body parts

at least he didn't include any pictures of him and his dog this time.

[Tank]

8 hours ago, nate said:

Just to Mexico.

With three different churches, btw.

how come you didn't go with an atheist group?

[nate]

24 minutes ago, Tank said:

how come you didn't go with an atheist group?

Because my hypocrite girlfriend gave really awesome sex

[mtangelsfan]

How altruistic of you

[Taylor]

14 hours ago, nate said:

You are ignoring that Christians also have stymied many types of scientific research because it is against god's wish.

Finally, as I already said, instead of building churches you could have been building things that actually help.  Instead of studying a 2k year old text, you could be studying science and technology.  Instead of helping an entire region that is decimated by poor living conditions, you brush them off because they don't worship the same god as you.

Can't it be both? There are plenty of Christians who believe in the sanctity of Scripture but still value science. That may seem like an oxymoron to you, but it doesn't need to be. I'm a fan of science because I believe in God. Since I believe God created the universe, I see science as an explanation for how the universe he created works. In my opinion, an anti-science Christian is an oxymoron.

I can tell you dozens of other stories of churches that are investing time, money, personnel, and creativity in providing for the physical needs of people. Yes, the reason they do it is because they believe every human being was created in God's image and is of infinite value and worth. You may not like the motive, but do you really have a problem with churches tackling food insecurity, poverty, starvation, lack of clean water, etc.?  

[nate]

Speaking of disrespecting the military.  Trump is king.

 

[nate]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Can't it be both? There are plenty of Christians who believe in the sanctity of Scripture but still value science. That may seem like an oxymoron to you, but it doesn't need to be. I'm a fan of science because I believe in God. Since I believe God created the universe, I see science as an explanation for how the universe he created works. In my opinion, an anti-science Christian is an oxymoron.

I can tell you dozens of other stories of churches that are investing time, money, personnel, and creativity in providing for the physical needs of people. Yes, the reason they do it is because they believe every human being was created in God's image and is of infinite value and worth. You may not like the motive, but do you really have a problem with churches tackling food insecurity, poverty, starvation, lack of clean water, etc.?  

I prefer my charities to be grounded in reality.  And I desperately look forward to the day when people in poor countries stop talking about god every time something bad happens and instead talk about how they can fix it.

[mtangelsfan]

Building roads, hospitals, schools and wells isn't helping to fix it?

 

[UndertheHalo]

Well, this isn't great.  

There was a pretty striking finding in Thursday's Quinnipiac University poll: Fully 46 percent of Republicans — a plurality — said they would support a preemptive strike against North Korea.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/14/almost-half-of-republicans-want-war-with-north-korea-says-a-new-poll-is-it-the-trump-effect/?utm_term=.9c336ad55121

[Adam]

24 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Well, this isn't great.  

There was a pretty striking finding in Thursday's Quinnipiac University poll: Fully 46 percent of Republicans — a plurality — said they would support a preemptive strike against North Korea.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/14/almost-half-of-republicans-want-war-with-north-korea-says-a-new-poll-is-it-the-trump-effect/?utm_term=.9c336ad55121

Idiots

[Tank]

1 hour ago, mtangelsfan said:

Building roads, hospitals, schools and wells isn't helping to fix it?

 

apparently not. my men's chorus paid for three wells to be dug in mozambique, but i guess we inadvertently did it for self-serving reasons.

[Adam]

This is actually just another example of how most people are these days. We identify and define everyone based upon our perceptions of the group they’re associated with. Shame. We get further and further away from assessing people as individuals. 

[mtangelsfan]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

Well, this isn't great.  

There was a pretty striking finding in Thursday's Quinnipiac University poll: Fully 46 percent of Republicans — a plurality — said they would support a preemptive strike against North Korea.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/14/almost-half-of-republicans-want-war-with-north-korea-says-a-new-poll-is-it-the-trump-effect/?utm_term=.9c336ad55121

So many morons out there

[Glen]

53 minutes ago, Tank said:

apparently not. my men's chorus paid for three wells to be dug in mozambique, but i guess we inadvertently did it for self-serving reasons.

Well, well, well.

[UndertheHalo]

 

[red321]

4 hours ago, Tank said:

apparently not. my men's chorus paid for three wells to be dug in mozambique, but i guess we inadvertently did it for self-serving reasons.

Shitty part is you make everyone listen to your chorus sing the wheels on the bus while lowering and raising the bucket. 

[Tank]

6 hours ago, red321 said:

Shitty part is you make everyone listen to your chorus sing the wheels on the bus while lowering and raising the bucket. 

well, it was either that or "i'm henry the eighth i am . . ."

[Thomas]

Considering the significant time spent by those in government and media talking about how scary North Korea is, I'm honestly surprised the number isn't higher. The human reaction of lashing out when encountering fear and insecurity is nearly universal and quite predictable. I would suppose the relatively moderate number for supporting preemptive action indicates a rather large number of people not paying attention.

[Blarg]

North Korea has a stockpile of ICBM missiles waiting for warheads. They are not just testing one or two they have on hand, they are testing for the entire arsenal. 

Their strategy isn't based around launching on the US but rather to force the hand to release North Korea from economic sanctions and annexing South Korea. The only end game they can come up with is a nuclear threat, having no other leverage.

Jong Un's latest speach had almost everything to do with the economy and little to nothing about missiles or nuclear weapons. This is a country being strangled to death by having no trade partners. If it continues his government will lose the people's faith, they can't afford another humanitarian crisis like the March of Suffering where an estimated 3 million died of starvation from '94-98. 

So on one hand there is no immediate threat as long as North Korea can hold it's own economically. If that falters they have to do something and that something could be catastrophic. Kind of a charge of the light brigade, knowing the outcome will be failure but making martyrs out of the Kim dynasty. In the process South Korea, Japan and the US will take a hit like never before.

That is why the DoD is looking seriously at a preemptive strike. The region cannot be stabilized by a fully nuclear armed North Korea. 

Edited October 16, 2017 by Blarg

[Glen]

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/16/558091752/trump-on-gop-failures-i-m-not-going-to-blame-myself-i-ll-be-honest

 

Of course he isn't.

[tennischmp]

The bodies of 4 US soldiers ambushed in Niger were returned home this weekend, Trump was golfing

[UndertheHalo]

14 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

The bodies of 4 US soldiers ambushed in Niger were returned home this weekend, Trump was golfing

the whole episode in Niger has been swept under the rug.

[tennischmp]

5 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

the whole episode in Niger has been swept under the rug.

Those sons of bitches that don't respect the flag or the troops though

[Blarg]

42 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

The bodies of 4 US soldiers ambushed in Niger were returned home this weekend, Trump was golfing

You do realize dead soldiers come home every week? You expected Trump to be on the tarmac saluting?