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[red321]

4 hours ago, Tank said:

You're responding to something I never said. My post is about the name used to describe those who've come here illegally and then expect us to take care of them.

how come you're okay with some people breaking some of our laws?

SJW, death panels, wing nuts, libtards....yeah, no group has ever tried to use a term to influence discussion. 

These layabout couch potatoes who are just looking for a handout were brought by their parents. Most of them have known the US as their homeland for almost their entire life. They were looking for legal status so they could become legal contributing members of society.

So yeah, I guess they were breaking the law...just like technically those white little shits selling watered down country time for $2.00 a glass are.

 

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, red321 said:

SJW, death panels, wing nuts, libtards....yeah, no group has ever tried to use a term to influence discussion. 

These layabout couch potatoes who are just looking for a handout were brought by their parents. Most of them have known the US as their homeland for almost their entire life. They were looking for legal status so they could become legal contributing members of society.

So yeah, I guess they were breaking the law...just like technically those white little shits selling watered down country time for $2.00 a glass are.

 

death panels is the GOAT

[Lou]

13 hours ago, red321 said:

SJW, death panels, wing nuts, libtards....yeah, no group has ever tried to use a term to influence discussion. 

My memory is a bit fuzzy, mostly because of the celebration at the Rose Bowl on Sunday, but which legislative proposals were library's and wing nuts based on? 

[Spirit]

14 hours ago, red321 said:

SJW, death panels, wing nuts, libtards....yeah, no group has ever tried to use a term to influence discussion. 

 

 

 

So Tank is right.  Got it.

 

 

[Lou]

14 hours ago, red321 said:

They were looking for legal status so they could become legal contributing members of society.

DACA doesn't provide a path to citizenship

[Lou]

19 hours ago, Glen said:

As for breaking laws: we all break laws every day.

I don't

[Lou]

19 hours ago, Kurt Swanson said:

The DACA people are not breaking laws and even have more to follow than any of us.  Far as illegal and taking care of them seems every community I go to they all work and I only take care of them when they mow my lawn.  The stigma is ingrained in peoples head just like the 5 million illegal voters when it is closer to 50.  This place never disappoints. 

Hey! Look who made his post-election appearance.  Welcome back, my friend. 

[Thomas]

19 hours ago, Glen said:

As for breaking laws: we all break laws every day. 

No kidding. 

--Everyone on your Facebook friends list.

[red321]

39 minutes ago, Lou said:

DACA doesn't provide a path to citizenship

Whew...glad I was right and didn't say it did

[red321]

 

[UndertheHalo]

11 minutes ago, red321 said:

 

lol what a crock a shit.  And of course he's  too much of a bitch to announce it himself.  So he makes Sessions go out and do it.  

As if this garbage is fooling anyone.  This is Trumps policy.  

Edited September 5, 2017 by UndertheHalo

[Thomas]

Makes sense. Looks like Republicans in congress want DACA as a carrot to get support on funding for "the wall" from Democrats. The whole issue probably isn't a high priority for Trump, since it doesn't make him money, so he's annoyed at best that he has to deal with it at all. Dumped it on Sessions.

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

This is Trumps policy.  

You really think he has a strong investment on it? How does it benefit him since that is his only reliable barometer?

[Lou]

46 minutes ago, red321 said:

Whew...glad I was right and didn't say it did

So how will this help them " become legal contributing members of society" ?

[UndertheHalo]

22 minutes ago, Thomas said:

You really think he has a strong investment on it? How does it benefit him since that is his only reliable barometer?

I don't think he has a strong investment in any idealogical idea.  Still going to point out what gutless twat he is.  

[Jason]

5 minutes ago, Lou said:

So how will this help them " become legal contributing members of society" ?

Sort of a pointless question. I don't believe the left cares if they are here legally or illegally. 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

I don't

Go for a hike with Glen, he will show his technique of breaking laws and getting away with it. Bring seven dollars in small bills.

[red321]

http://ktla.com/2017/09/04/deferred-action-program-explained/

 

[Thomas]

5 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I don't think he has a strong investment in any idealogical idea.  Still going to point out what gutless twat he is.  

That implies that he worries about what others think of him which I severely doubt. So somehow being a gutless twat (And according to many left leaning memes the last thing he has going for him is lacking a gut) would be an upgrade for him.

[Blarg]

Remember the amnesty act that was passed back in '86 with the promise of tightened border security. Once it cleared Congress the border funding was ignored. Nw we have the anchor baby and children loopholes that allow more to enter without fear of deportation.

Wouldn't it be a better idea to close the entrance loopholes as well as the physical holes in our border so we don't have to make constant concessions to illegal immigration over and over and over? 

We keep ignoring the arterial bleeding to concentrate on Botoxing the wrinkles on an old problem. 

[Tank]

20 hours ago, Glen said:

As I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong) dreamers have to pay $500 every other year and pay all applicable taxes. Sounds like they're paying their fair share.

As for breaking laws: we all break laws every day. Selective enforcement has always been an aspect. Do you want to end DACA?

I don't break laws every day. But then again, I don't go on morning walks in the AV.

i don't know enough about DACA to say whether it should end or continue. What I do know is that people who were born here ought to support and search for a legal path to citizenship. If that means working to rewrite current immigration laws or create new ones to accomplish that goal, fine with me, but there needs to be some sort of legal action taken/created as opposed to what is currently happening, as if they're owed something whether being born here as an anchor baby or brought here illegally as a child entitles them to whatever they think they're entitled to. Fight for citizenship as much as you fight for anything else.

[nate]

These are children who in most cases a) didn't have a choice coming here and b. in the only country they have ever known.

So we are going to deport kids to a country they have no ties to and in most cases have never lived in beyond their youngest years.  Destroying the lives of children... This is villainy in the highest form.

Deport adults that illegally come here every day, but this is despicable.

[Blarg]

The think of the children plea is always the easiest. It shuts down any rational discussion and creates a giant pity roadblock to remove legislation that never should have been adopted.

[Tank]

4 minutes ago, nate said:

These are children who in most cases a) didn't have a choice coming here and b. in the only country they have ever known.

So we are going to deport kids to a country they have no ties to and in most cases have never lived in beyond their youngest years.  Destroying the lives of children... This is villainy in the highest form.

Deport adults that illegally come here every day, but this is despicable.

So what do you do with the kids, Nate? Deport their parents but leave them here, making them even more dependent on the system to take care of them? Is separating them from their law-breaking parents a good solution? Can't leave the parents here with no legal repercussions.

I'd guess many/most/all of them have family south of the US. 

[nate]

More of them have legal family in the US than they do in Mexico.

Their parents are not a part of DACA.  DACA just says that kids brought to the US illegally before their 16th birthday will not be deported.