SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, St1ck said:

I'm willing to forgive In N Out for being a bunch of anti-vaxxers who endanger the lives of their employees and customers if they add a certain fruit flavored soda to their menu. 

Anti mandate would be a lot more accurate. 

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, cals said:

Do you deny it?

Nope

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, cals said:

Haha

I agree

[St1ck]

11 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Anti mandate would be a lot more accurate. 

I'm sure there are plenty of other health mandates you guys follow. Granted I've never been on the other side of the counter. For all I know you guys could be walking around in raw sewage back there. I bet you guys took down all the signs telling employees to wash their hands. 

[Jason]

25 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Anti mandate would be a lot more accurate. 

People are having a hard time understanding that those are different things 

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

I read it, it’s cute. It reads like he has an agenda and it reads like he wants to be edgy.  It reads like we are politicizing or trying to capitalize on the company’s stance.  Did he ask why some associates wear masks, no.  Why because he wants to give the impression we don’t care about the virus.  As someone who knows exactly what we’ve done, I know it’s utter bullshit. So believe the journalist or the guy that’s worked there 30+ years.  

I'm wondering though.  Does In N Out require their employees to show proof of Vax?

[Tank]

50 minutes ago, St1ck said:

I'm willing to forgive In N Out for being a bunch of anti-vaxxers who endanger the lives of their employees and customers if they add a certain fruit flavored soda to their menu. 

Purple drank?

[Stradling]

Just now, gotbeer said:

I'm wondering though.  Does In N Out require their employees to show proof of Vax?

Vaccinated associates masks are optional. 

[St1ck]

32 minutes ago, Jason said:

People are having a hard time understanding that those are different things 

What if I lit up a cigarette in their dining room? Would the employees become the smoking police? 

[UndertheHalo]

So what’s the deal now ? Is the dining room open or closed at these impacted locations ?

[AngelsLakersFan]

18 minutes ago, St1ck said:

What if I lit up a cigarette in their dining room? Would the employees become the smoking police? 

It's a little different. Someone lighting up in the dining room is probably not even a once a year thing that a manager can be expected to take care of. Asking your front line workers to ask every single person for proof of vaccination before getting their burger is a recipe for disaster. We've already seen workers shot for asking customers to put a mask on.

[UndertheHalo]

It’s awesome to shoot someone because they told you you’d have to put a mask on to get your treats. 

[St1ck]

6 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

It's a little different. Someone lighting up in the dining room is probably not even a once a year thing that a manager can be expected to take care of. Asking your front line workers to ask every single person for proof of vaccination before getting their burger is a recipe for disaster. We've already seen workers shot for asking customers to put a mask on.

I was actually thinking of going to In N Out after my son's soccer game but now I'm a little hesitant. How do I know that they won't just slap a piece of raw meat on a bun? There's a pattern forming that they just don't take public health measures seriously. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 minutes ago, St1ck said:

I was actually thinking of going to In N Out after my son's soccer game but now I'm a little hesitant. How do I know that they won't just slap a piece of raw meat on a bun? There's a pattern forming that they just don't take public health measures seriously. 

I usually base it off the 'did I get sick last time' measure. If you get covid at In N Out I would recommend avoiding it in the future.

[UndertheHalo]

I think that generally the expectation that a restaurant or retail employee confront people about vaccination isn’t a very viable way to do safety.  It’s really just not.  That said in-n-out is obliged to follow the local public health directives where they’re in business.  If they don’t want their employees in the business of policing vaccinations (fair enough) they should just close their dining rooms.  To do otherwise and get one of your comms people throw a public hissy fit sort of screams of deliberate politicization.  So it’s a bit much to say that it’s not about politics.  It definitely is when they behave that way. 
 

San Francisco is like over 90% vaccinated as I understand it.  The vaccine checks for relatively small dining rooms probably aren’t necessary.  Make them space out the tables.  Have the employees wear masks.  That seems like more reasonable policy. 
 

now for large gatherings.  Particularly indoor. The vaccine requirement becomes a more pertinent question.  Imo. 

Edited October 23, 2021 by UndertheHalo

[St1ck]

3 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

I usually base it off the 'did I get sick last time' measure. If you get covid at In N Out I would recommend avoiding it in the future.

I have no idea what other viruses they may have floating around there though. Maybe I get COVID this time. Maybe next time it's Polio. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 minutes ago, St1ck said:

I have no idea what other viruses they may have floating around there though. Maybe I get COVID this time. Maybe next time it's Polio. 

Covid AND Polio!? Now that's a real double double.

[St1ck]

12 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I think that generally the expectation that a restaurant or retail employee confront people about vaccination isn’t a very viable way to do safety.  It’s really just not.  That said in-n-out is obliged to follow the local public health directives where they’re in business.  If they don’t want their employees in the business of policing vaccinations (fair enough) they should just close their dining rooms.  To do otherwise and get one of your comms people throw a public hissy fit sort of screams of deliberate politicization.  So it’s a bit much to say that it’s not about politics.  It definitely is when they behave that way. 
 

San Francisco is like over 90% vaccinated as I understand it.  The vaccine checks for relatively small dining rooms probably aren’t necessary.  Make them space out the tables.  Have the employees wear masks.  That seems like more reasonable policy. 
 

now for large gatherings.  Particularly indoor. The vaccine requirement becomes a more pertinent question.  Imo. 

Just received their official response to your post.

 

[UndertheHalo]

8 minutes ago, St1ck said:

Just received their official response to your post.

 

I’m afraid that this deep disrespect will require me to get my burger treats at other fine dining establishments.  Like uhh Panda Express. 

[gotbeer]

3 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I’m afraid that this deep disrespect will require me to get my burger treats at other fine dining establishments.  Like uhh Panda Express. 

 

Panda Express is white privilege.  

[Jason]

1 hour ago, St1ck said:

What if I lit up a cigarette in their dining room? Would the employees become the smoking police? 

Nice straw man 

[Jason]

42 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I think that generally the expectation that a restaurant or retail employee confront people about vaccination isn’t a very viable way to do safety.  It’s really just not.  That said in-n-out is obliged to follow the local public health directives where they’re in business.  If they don’t want their employees in the business of policing vaccinations (fair enough) they should just close their dining rooms.  To do otherwise and get one of your comms people throw a public hissy fit sort of screams of deliberate politicization.  So it’s a bit much to say that it’s not about politics.  It definitely is when they behave that way. 
 

San Francisco is like over 90% vaccinated as I understand it.  The vaccine checks for relatively small dining rooms probably aren’t necessary.  Make them space out the tables.  Have the employees wear masks.  That seems like more reasonable policy. 
 

now for large gatherings.  Particularly indoor. The vaccine requirement becomes a more pertinent question.  Imo. 

I agree with this. If they don’t like the city’s rules they should close or move somewhere else. 

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, cals said:

INO seems like a take their ball and leave sort of company.  Then again they also seem like a money, money, money company so I dunno.

I’m guessing making money wins out in the end 

[St1ck]

21 minutes ago, Jason said:

Nice straw man 

I'm starting to think it's safer eating off the bathroom floor of a McDonald's than it is a dining room at In N Out. 

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, St1ck said:

I'm starting to think it's safer eating off the bathroom floor of a McDonald's than it is a dining room at In N Out. 

Conduct some empirical research and then give us an update so we can also be safe